{"id":35343,"date":"2026-06-08T23:13:00","date_gmt":"2026-06-08T23:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=35343"},"modified":"2026-06-09T03:13:40","modified_gmt":"2026-06-09T03:13:40","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-muktza-monday-night-shiur-sivan-26-daf-42b-43a-06-08-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-muktza-monday-night-shiur-sivan-26-daf-42b-43a-06-08-26\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Muktza Monday night shiur, Sivan 26, Daf 42b-43a (06\/08\/26)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofmuktzah06082026.MP3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Clarify and list the machlokes Rashi and Tosfos of the above three Tosfos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the connection between all of them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8\u05d0\u05e9 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3&nbsp; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1: &#8220;\u05d4\u05e6\u05dc\u05d4 \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d9\u05d4 who explains the connection between all three Machlokes Rashi and Tosfos&nbsp;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1 \u05e2\u05de&#8217; \u05d1 &#8221; &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05dd&#8221;, &#8220;\u05d4\u05e6\u05dc\u05d4&#8221;, &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40668&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=172\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40668&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=172<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d2. &#8220;\u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 (six lines from top of the amud) until &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d9\u05e6\u05d7\u05e7 (two lines before the wide lines)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the explanation of \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3&nbsp;of the Halacha of \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d7\u05e1\u05d3\u05d0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d2. &#8220;\u05d3\u05de\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is this the same reason as Rashi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05e7\u05e0\u05d3: &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0 \u05de\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 which seems to say a different reason<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How many reasons do we have to explain this halacha?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What are the \u05e0\u05e4\u05e7\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp;between the reasons?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;&nbsp;\u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d2. &amp; \u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e1&#8221;\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d1\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05d6\u05d4\u05d1 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=169&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=169&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Continue learning the Gemara until \u05ea\u05d0 \u05e9\u05de\u05e2 (third wide line)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How is the reason of \u05e8&#8217; 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