{"id":35050,"date":"2026-04-20T22:15:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-20T22:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=35050"},"modified":"2026-04-22T02:52:36","modified_gmt":"2026-04-22T02:52:36","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-iyar-3-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%92-%d7%9e%d7%93-%d7%98%d7%9c%d7%98%d7%95%d7%9c-%d7%9e%d7%95%d7%a7%d7%a6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-iyar-3-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%92-%d7%9e%d7%93-%d7%98%d7%9c%d7%98%d7%95%d7%9c-%d7%9e%d7%95%d7%a7%d7%a6\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9, Iyar 3 &#8211; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d2: &#8211; \u05de\u05d3. \u05d8\u05dc\u05d8\u05d5\u05dc \u05de\u05d5\u05e7\u05e6\u05d4 \u05e2&#8221;\u05d9 \u05db\u05db\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05ea\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u05e7\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e\u200e (04\/20\/26)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofmuktzah04202026.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Topic:&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>\u05d8\u05dc\u05d8\u05d5\u05dc \u05de\u05d5\u05e7\u05e6\u05d4 \u05e2&#8221;<\/strong><strong>\u05d9 \u05db\u05db\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05ea\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u05e7&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review&nbsp;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d2: &#8220;\u05d3\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05e9\u05de\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4&nbsp;until the two dots on&nbsp;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Key point to consider:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How does placing a&nbsp;\u05db\u05db\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05ea\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u05e7&nbsp;circumvent the issue of moving Muktzah directly?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does the&nbsp;\u05db\u05db\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05ea\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u05e7&nbsp;have to placed on top of the dead body or is it sufficient to place it adjacent?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=132\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=132<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See&nbsp;\u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05e9\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=195\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=195<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the permission to carry Muktzah item by placing&nbsp;\u05db\u05db\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05ea\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u05e7&nbsp;limited to a dead person or also for other items of Muktza?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Review&nbsp;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e7\u05de\u05d1: &#8220;\u05de\u05e2\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05db\u05e8&nbsp;(two dots in wide lines) until&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 \u05de\u05e0\u05d7&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&amp;daf=142b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&amp;daf=142b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=133\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=133<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=120\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=120<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See&nbsp;\u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d2&nbsp;that says this permission can be accomplished by placing any item in top of the&nbsp;\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05de\u05dc\u05d0\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=121\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=121<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How can one reconcile these two halachos which are seemingly contradictory? 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