{"id":34070,"date":"2025-11-17T22:44:00","date_gmt":"2025-11-17T22:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=34070"},"modified":"2025-11-18T05:58:58","modified_gmt":"2025-11-18T05:58:58","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-borer-monday-night-shiur-cheshvan-27-daf-74a-non-food-items-11-17-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-borer-monday-night-shiur-cheshvan-27-daf-74a-non-food-items-11-17-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Borer &#8211; Monday night shiur, Cheshvan 27 &#8211; Daf 74a &#8211; Non Food Items (11\/17\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofborer11172025-1.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Does the Melacha of Borer apply to non-food items?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e2\u05d3: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d0\u05df \u05d3\u05e2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d3 \u05d7\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 and &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 &#8220;\u05e9\u05d1\u05e2 \u05d7\u05d8\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Review &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e2\u05d3. &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05dc\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9\u05d5 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Review &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d4\u05d9\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d8&#8221;\u05d6 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d1 who brings a proof from Rashi and Tosfos that the prohibition of Borer applied to non-food items.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05e9\u05de\u05d7 \u05d4&#8217; \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d0 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d7 who argues on the Taz<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clarify what is the logic of the Ohr Somayach as to why Borer is not relevant to non-food items.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See &#8220;\u05e1\u05e4\u05e8 \u05d7\u05d5\u05d8 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e0\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d4 &#8220;\u05d1\u05d5\u05e8\u05e8 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd, \u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd, \u05d1\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd who explains the Ohr Somayach is saying two novel ideas.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d6-\u05d8 who discusses the ideas of the Ohr Somayach but challenges them.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d6 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d2 &amp; \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d4 who explains the principle of the Ohr Somayach&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s the Halachic Conclusion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d8\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05d0\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d3 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e2\u05d3 \u05d1\u05d5\u05e8\u05e8 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9 &amp; \u05d9\u05d1&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05db\u05d7 &amp; \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Would selecting a Sefer from a bookcase be an issue of Borer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; 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