{"id":33938,"date":"2025-10-22T19:07:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-22T19:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33938"},"modified":"2025-10-22T23:07:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-22T23:07:11","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-rosh-chodesh-cheshvan-daf-42a-sugya-kli-sheini-10-22-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-rosh-chodesh-cheshvan-daf-42a-sugya-kli-sheini-10-22-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9, Rosh Chodesh Cheshvan, Daf 42a Sugya &#8211; Kli Sheini (10\/22\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah10222025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Gutten Chodesh&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1. &#8220;\u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05e0\u05d5\u05ea\u05df (two dots &#8211; ten lines from top of the Amud) until &#8220;\u05e1\u05d1\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 \u05dc\u05de\u05d9\u05de\u05e8&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quickly review \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05e0\u05d5\u05ea\u05df&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de \u05e2\u05de&#8217; \u05d1 stated that a Kli Sheini does not cook.&nbsp;Why is it prohibited to pour cold water into a cup of Kli Sheini &#8211; hot water according to Beis Shammai?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rashi says because of \u05ea\u05ea\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d2\u05d1\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tosfos&nbsp;&#8211; \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05e0\u05d5\u05ea\u05df &#8211; says it&#8217;s a gezaira drabanan so person won&#8217;t come to pour cold water into a Kli Rishon.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Rashi why does \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05dc\u05dc permit pouring cold water into a cup of hot water?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How does Rashi answer the questions of Tosfos regarding \u05ea\u05ea\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d2\u05d1\u05e8 ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the exact case of \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05e6\u05d5\u05e0\u05df &amp; \u05e6\u05d5\u05e0\u05df \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05df?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Note &#8211; how Tosfos explains the case of pouring hot water into cold water and vice versa&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Review \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d0\u05d1\u05dc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tosfos explains the \u05d0\u05de\u05d1\u05d8\u05d9\u05d4 in the Halacha of our Gemara is a Kli Sheini.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is it forbidden to pour cold water into the bath if it&#8217;s a Kli Sheini?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bring a proof from Rashi whether the bath is a Kli Rishon or a Kli Sheini&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=588\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=588<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=589\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=589<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the Ran the same or different than the explanation of Tosfos?&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gutten Chodesh&nbsp; 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