{"id":33773,"date":"2025-09-03T17:58:00","date_gmt":"2025-09-03T17:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33773"},"modified":"2025-09-03T21:59:31","modified_gmt":"2025-09-03T21:59:31","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-elul-10-daf-41a-09-03-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-elul-10-daf-41a-09-03-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9, Elul 10, Daf 41a (09\/03\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah09032025-1.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Review the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d0. &#8220;\u05de\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05d0\u05e8&nbsp;and the Gemara until the next Mishna&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the prohibition in the Mishna a prohibition of leaving the water in this urn before Shabbos? Or just a prohibition of drinking the water from this urn?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the Mishna in accordance with the opinion of the Rabanan who prohibit&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp;on an item that is not fully cooked or&nbsp;\u05d7\u05e0\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp;who permits&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp;if the food is cooked&nbsp;\u05db\u05de\u05d0\u05db\u05dc \u05d1\u05df \u05d3\u05e8\u05d5\u05e1\u05d0\u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(At what stage is water considered cooked&nbsp;\u05db\u05de\u05d0\u05db\u05dc \u05d1\u05df \u05d3\u05e8\u05d5\u05e1\u05d0\u05d9?)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05de\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05d0\u05e8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clarify Tosfos explanation of the Mishna and how it answers all his questions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0&nbsp;who asks on Tosfos<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=62\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=62<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See&nbsp;\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05e9\u05e2&nbsp;who gives an answer<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14633&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=139\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14633&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=139<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40905&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=19\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40905&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=19<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40905&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=20\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40905&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=20<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=587\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=587<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=588\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=588<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How can we answer Tosfos questions on Rashi?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Review the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d0. &#8220;\u05de\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05d0\u05e8&nbsp;and the Gemara until the next Mishna&nbsp; Questions: Is the prohibition in the Mishna a prohibition of leaving the water in this urn before Shabbos? 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