{"id":33644,"date":"2025-08-19T13:22:00","date_gmt":"2025-08-19T13:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33644"},"modified":"2025-08-19T17:22:46","modified_gmt":"2025-08-19T17:22:46","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-25-daf-40b-41a-08-19-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-25-daf-40b-41a-08-19-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9, Av 25, Daf 40b &#8211; 41a\u00a0(08\/19\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah08192025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de: &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d9\u05e6\u05d7\u05e7 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d3\u05d9\u05de\u05d9 (middle of the wide lines) until&nbsp; &#8220;\u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05d9 \u05e2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d3 \u05d4\u05db\u05d9&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is it permitted to place uncooked food in a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9? 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