{"id":33639,"date":"2025-08-18T13:39:00","date_gmt":"2025-08-18T13:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33639"},"modified":"2025-08-18T17:39:41","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T17:39:41","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-av-24-daf-40b-08-18-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-av-24-daf-40b-08-18-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9, Av 24, Daf 40b\u00a0(08\/18\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah08182025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the&nbsp;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de: &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d9\u05e6\u05d7\u05e7 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d3\u05d9\u05de\u05d9&nbsp;(middle of the wide lines) until&nbsp; &#8220;\u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05d9 \u05e2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d3 \u05d4\u05db\u05d9&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the&nbsp;\u05e8\u05d9&#8221;\u05e3&nbsp;who has a different Girsa in the third Halacha.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the&nbsp;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;who explains the difference.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=587\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=587<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is it permitted to place water near a fire to warm up when the fire will go out before the water heats up to&nbsp;\u05d9\u05d3 \u05e1\u05d5\u05dc\u05d3\u05ea?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d9\u05d3&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05e6&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;\u05e6\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=280&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=280&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e6\u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=916&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=152\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=916&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=152<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=916\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=916<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is the case of a timer that will shut off the electricity before the water can get hot different from heating towels?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is it permitted to place uncooked food in a&nbsp;\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9? 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