{"id":33600,"date":"2025-08-11T23:05:00","date_gmt":"2025-08-11T23:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33600"},"modified":"2025-08-12T15:41:36","modified_gmt":"2025-08-12T15:41:36","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-av-17-daf-40b-cooking-fruit-vegetable-heating-water-on-shabbos-08-11-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-av-17-daf-40b-cooking-fruit-vegetable-heating-water-on-shabbos-08-11-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9, Av 17, Daf 40b Cooking fruit &amp; vegetable &amp; heating water on Shabbos (08\/11\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah08112025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Halachic Conclusion:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is heating water a violation of cooking?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is it permitted to cook fruits or vegetables which are edible raw on Shabbos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d4&#8217; \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d2 &#8220;\u05d4\u05de\u05d1\u05e9\u05dc \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=38\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=38<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and \u05de\u05d2\u05d9\u05d3 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is heating water a violation of cooking according to the Rambam as water is edible raw?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05e2 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d3 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How could the Shulchan Aruch rule that one who cooks fruit or vegetables which are edible raw is violating the melacha of cooking on Shabbos when the Rambam clearly rules one is not in violation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d7 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05e7\u05d9\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=280&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=280&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d3 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=29\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=29<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d4&#8217; \u05e8\u05e2&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05e2 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d3 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9&#8221;\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Note the two different ways to explain the Rambam&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d0\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d8\u05dc \u05d0\u05d5\u05e4\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d9 &amp; \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d8 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d9\u05d1 &#8211; \u05d9&#8221;\u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14401&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=248\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14401&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=248<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Who gives an explanation why heating water is a violation of cooking.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Halachic Conclusion: Why is heating water a violation of cooking? 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