{"id":33400,"date":"2025-07-07T23:20:00","date_gmt":"2025-07-07T23:20:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33400"},"modified":"2025-07-08T13:55:39","modified_gmt":"2025-07-08T13:55:39","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-tamuz-11-daf-40a-40b-07-07-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-tamuz-11-daf-40a-40b-07-07-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9, Tamuz 11, Daf 40a-40b\u00a0(07\/07\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah07072025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the&nbsp;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de. &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05de\u05e8\u05d7\u05e5 \u05e9\u05e4\u05e7\u05e7\u05d5 \u05e0\u05e7\u05d1\u05d9\u05d5&nbsp;(two thirds down the Amud) until &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0&#8221; (the bottom of the Amud)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Braissa says a bathhouse in which the holes were closed before Shabbos is permitted to bath inside of immediately after Shabbos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the chiddush?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See Rashi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;&#8220;\u05de\u05e8\u05d7\u05e5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=586\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=586<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara records a story in which Rebbe Elazar Ben Azaria and Rebbe Akiva went into a bath house to be&nbsp;\u05de\u05d6\u05d9\u05e2. Afterwards they went into the outer room in which the hot water was covered by boards&nbsp; and showered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Did they take a hot shower or cold shower?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d0\u05dc\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by heating up water?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8&#8217; \u05e9\u05de\u05e2\u05d5\u05df \u05d1\u05df \u05e4\u05d6\u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse&nbsp;\u05dc\u05d4\u05d6\u05d9\u05e2&nbsp;on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse&nbsp;\u05dc\u05d4\u05d6\u05d9\u05e2&nbsp;on Yom tov?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05dc\u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Continue learning the Gemara&nbsp;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de. &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0&nbsp;until &#8220;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de: &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05de\u05ea\u05d7\u05de\u05dd \u05d0\u05d3\u05dd&nbsp;(fourth line)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is it permitted to enter a bathhouse of a large city with intent to be&nbsp;\u05de\u05d6\u05d9\u05e2?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d2\u05e8\u05e1\u05d9\u05e0\u05df \u05d1\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05d1\u05d8\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>In conclusion<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What type of bathing is permitted on Shabbos? On Yom tov?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05da<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05db&#8221;\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d0&nbsp;with the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=326\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=326<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=327\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=327<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>May one bathe in a river?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05db&#8221;\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d6&nbsp;with the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=328\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=328<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>May one bathe in a cold bath?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>May one immerse in a mikveh on Shabbos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05db&#8221;\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=181&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=181&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And&nbsp;\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d0\u05d3\u05dd \u05de\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=329\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=329<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>May the water of the mikveh be heated before Shabbos?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Very quickly review the&nbsp;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de. &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05de\u05e8\u05d7\u05e5 \u05e9\u05e4\u05e7\u05e7\u05d5 \u05e0\u05e7\u05d1\u05d9\u05d5&nbsp;(two thirds down the Amud) until &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0&#8221; (the bottom of the Amud) Questions: The Braissa says a bathhouse in which the holes were closed&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,5,67],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33400","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-shabbos"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33400","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=33400"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33400\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":33403,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33400\/revisions\/33403"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=33400"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=33400"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=33400"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}