{"id":33239,"date":"2025-05-14T17:38:00","date_gmt":"2025-05-14T17:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33239"},"modified":"2025-05-14T21:39:05","modified_gmt":"2025-05-14T21:39:05","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-iyar-16-daf-39a-05-14-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-iyar-16-daf-39a-05-14-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9, Iyar 16 Daf 39a\u00a0\u00a0(05\/14\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbosperekkirah05142025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d8. &#8220;\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e4\u05e7\u05d9\u05e2\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e1\u05d5\u05d3\u05e8\u05d9\u05df&nbsp; (five lines from top of the Amud) until &#8220;\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d8\u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d7\u05d5\u05dc (next set of two dots)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d8. &#8220;\u05d3\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 who says the reason it is permitted to cook something directly from the sun is because &#8220;\u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e8\u05da \u05d1\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc \u05d1\u05db\u05da&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have a rule in \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea when a melacha is performed in an abnormal way it is exempt from Torah violation however it is still prohibited \u05de\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df. So how could it be permitted to cook directly from the heat of the sun?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are prohibitions of cooking in regards to other halachos. For example &#8211; cooking meat and milk together, cooking the Korban Pesach.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If someone were to cook in the sun or a product that was heated by the sun would they be transgressing that prohibition?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d0. &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d7\u05e1\u05d3\u05d0 \u05d4\u05de\u05d1\u05e9\u05dc (ten lines from bottom of the Amud) in regards to cooking the \u05e7\u05e8\u05d1\u05df \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7 in \u05d7\u05de\u05d9 \u05d8\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05d0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=41&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=41&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d4&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05db\u05dc\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d5 in regards to cooking meat and milk together in \u05d7\u05de\u05d9 \u05d8\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58960&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=133\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58960&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=133<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d0\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d8\u05dc \u05de\u05dc\u05d0\u05db\u05ea \u05d0\u05d5\u05e4\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05de\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14401&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=264\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14401&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=264<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14401&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=265\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14401&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=265<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d0\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d2 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e0\u05d1 who gives a different explanation than the \u05d0\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d8\u05dc&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=919&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=351\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=919&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=351<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=919&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=352\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=919&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=352<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Based on the above would cooking in a microwave be a violation from the Torah, Drabanan, or permitted barring the operation of electric appliance on Shabbos&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05de\u05e0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05e7\u05de\u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d9\u05d1 \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d5 &amp; \u05d6 for a new explanation different than the \u05d0\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d8\u05dc and \u05d0\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=15096&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=149\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=15096&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=149<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=15096&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=150\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=15096&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=150<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d8. &#8220;\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e4\u05e7\u05d9\u05e2\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e1\u05d5\u05d3\u05e8\u05d9\u05df&nbsp; 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