{"id":33013,"date":"2025-01-22T19:18:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-22T19:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=33013"},"modified":"2025-01-26T23:22:39","modified_gmt":"2025-01-26T23:22:39","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-teves-22-daf-38a-sugya-%d7%9e%d7%a2%d7%a9%d7%94-%d7%a9%d7%91%d7%aa-01-22-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-teves-22-daf-38a-sugya-%d7%9e%d7%a2%d7%a9%d7%94-%d7%a9%d7%91%d7%aa-01-22-25\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Shabbos: Perek Kirah, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9, Teves 22 Daf 38a Sugya &#8211; \u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u200e(01\/22\/25)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemarashabbosthirdperek01222025.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Sugya &#8211;&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We discussed at length the machlokes between&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8, \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4, &amp;&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df \u05d4\u05e1\u05e0\u05d3\u05dc\u05e8&nbsp;as to when and to whom is food cooked on&nbsp;Shabbos&nbsp;prohibited to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the halacha if one violates an&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df&nbsp;&#8211; is the ruling the same as violating an&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We learnt the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05de\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1,\u05d2&nbsp;which equates&nbsp;\u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0&nbsp;and&nbsp;\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df&nbsp;and presents the halacha by both according to&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We learnt the&nbsp;\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d2,\u05d7&nbsp;who rules by&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df&nbsp;like&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=106\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=106<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We learnt the&nbsp;\u05d1&#8217; \u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d1&nbsp;that brings a proof from the Mishna and Rambam that&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4&nbsp;agrees to&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8&nbsp;ruling by an&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">How do we conclude?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d7, \u05d0&nbsp;with the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d2&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;\u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d4\u05de\u05d1\u05e9\u05dc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=271\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=271<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=272\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=272<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the proof of the Pri Megadim from our Gemara&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d7&nbsp;that there is no difference between the ruling of&nbsp;\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea&nbsp;&nbsp;between an&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Clarify the answer of the&nbsp;\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4&nbsp;why there is no proof from our Gemara.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Does the&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \/ \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4&nbsp;rule like&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8&nbsp;when someone violates&nbsp;Shabbos&nbsp;\u05d1\u05de\u05d6\u05d9\u05d3&nbsp;by an&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See end of &#8220;\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d4\u05de\u05d1\u05e9\u05dc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05dc&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=378\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=378<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And&nbsp;\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db\u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And&nbsp;\u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05db\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the halacha if someone intentionally cooks on&nbsp;Shabbos&nbsp;for a specific person? Can the person eat the food after&nbsp;Shabbos?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn&nbsp;\u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d0&nbsp;starting from&nbsp;\u05e0&#8221;\u05dc \u05d3\u05dc\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05ea\u05d1\u05e9\u05dc \u05d1\u05e9\u05d1\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=152\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=152<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Is there a difference if the person is cooking or making the item in order to sell?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn&nbsp;\u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05e1\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e0&#8217; \u05e2\u05e0\u05e3 \u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=950&amp;pgnum=97\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=950&amp;pgnum=97<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sugya &#8211;&nbsp;\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea&nbsp; We discussed at length the machlokes between&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8, \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4, &amp;&nbsp;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df \u05d4\u05e1\u05e0\u05d3\u05dc\u05e8&nbsp;as to when and to whom is food cooked on&nbsp;Shabbos&nbsp;prohibited to. What is the halacha if one violates an&nbsp;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,5,67],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33013","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-shabbos"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33013","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=33013"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33013\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":33019,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33013\/revisions\/33019"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=33013"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=33013"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=33013"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}