{"id":32904,"date":"2024-12-23T17:28:00","date_gmt":"2024-12-23T17:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=32904"},"modified":"2024-12-23T22:28:43","modified_gmt":"2024-12-23T22:28:43","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-kislev-22-daf-38b-12-23-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-kislev-22-daf-38b-12-23-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: \u00a0Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9 Kislev 22, Daf 38b (12\/23\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemarashabbosthirdperek12232024.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>In conclusion:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Many people have the practice to turn a pan upside down and place cold fully cooked solid food from the refrigerator on top of the upside down pan on Shabbos morning?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Is this permitted according to the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3 &amp; \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e7\u05db\u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And see \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7&#8221;\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05dc\u05d3 &amp; \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05de\u05d7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Next Question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If one placed a pan of food on top of soup pot which is on the blech. May one move the pan on Shabbos and place it directly on the blech?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Point to consider&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the status of a pot of food that is resting on top of another pot which is on the stovetop.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Is it considered on the fire which is \u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05e3 \u05d5\u05e7\u05d8\u05d5\u05dd&nbsp; or is it considered just \u05e1\u05de\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05db\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Bring a proof&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Review \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=27\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=27<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3 &amp; \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e7\u05db\u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And see \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7&#8221;\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05de &amp; \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e0\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">May one move a pot which is placed in the blech in area not directly over the fire to the part of the blech directly over the fire?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Is the entire blech considered a stovetop which&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">is \u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05e3 \u05d5\u05e7\u05d8\u05d5\u05dd or is it considered just \u05e1\u05de\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05db\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Bring a proof&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05e1\u05d8 &amp; \u05e2 with the footnotes&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In conclusion: Many people have the practice to turn a pan upside down and place cold fully cooked solid food from the refrigerator on top of the upside down pan on Shabbos morning? 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