{"id":32862,"date":"2024-12-09T23:30:00","date_gmt":"2024-12-09T23:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=32862"},"modified":"2024-12-10T16:24:43","modified_gmt":"2024-12-10T16:24:43","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-third-perek-monday-night-shiur-kislev-9-daf-36b-12-09-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-third-perek-monday-night-shiur-kislev-9-daf-36b-12-09-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek &#8211; Monday night shiur Kislev 9, Daf 36b (12\/09\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarashabbosthirdperek12092024.MP3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Quickly review &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5: &#8220;\u05dc\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Rashi sources the \u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4 to \u05d4\u05d8\u05de\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05de\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4\u05d1\u05dc which the Gemara explains is prohibited because we are considered \u05e9\u05de\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d7\u05ea\u05d4.&nbsp; Tosfos argues on Rashi and says the prohibition is because \u05e9\u05de\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d7\u05ea\u05d4. How is Tosfos&#8217; explanation different from Rashi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">According to Tosfos how does raking out the coals or placing ashes on the \u05d2\u05e4\u05ea \u05d5\u05e2\u05e6\u05d9\u05dd permit one to place cooked food on the Kirah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05e8&#8221;\u05df &#8220;\u05d0\u05d5 \u05e2\u05d3 \u05e9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df \u05d4\u05d0\u05e4\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">List two differences between Rashi and Tosfos\/ Ran in regards to \u05d4\u05d8\u05de\u05e0\u05d4 and two possible differences in regards to \u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">According to Tosfos why is \u05d4\u05d8\u05de\u05e0\u05d4 more stringent than \u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05de\u05d6: &#8220;\u05d1\u05de\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d1&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9 for a new explanation in Rashi&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Bring a proof from Rashi \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d3: &#8220;\u05d2\u05d6\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 against this explanation&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 until \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d6. &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e9&#8221; (Eleven lines from top of the Amud)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quickly review &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5: &#8220;\u05dc\u05d0 Questions: Rashi sources the \u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4 to \u05d4\u05d8\u05de\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05de\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4\u05d1\u05dc which the Gemara explains is prohibited because we are considered \u05e9\u05de\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d7\u05ea\u05d4.&nbsp; Tosfos argues on Rashi and&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,28,5,73,67],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32862","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-halacha","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-shabbos-2","category-shabbos"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32862","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32862"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32862\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32864,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32862\/revisions\/32864"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32862"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32862"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32862"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}