{"id":32811,"date":"2024-12-03T23:30:00","date_gmt":"2024-12-03T23:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=32811"},"modified":"2024-12-04T15:14:34","modified_gmt":"2024-12-04T15:14:34","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-kislev-3-daf-38b-12-03-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-kislev-3-daf-38b-12-03-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Shabbos: Perek Kirah \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Kislev 2, Daf 38b (12\/03\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemarashabbosthirdperek12032024.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Halachik Conclusions of \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d7\u05d6\u05e8\u05d4:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d1 &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05dd \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05d7 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05e7\u05e8\u05e7\u05e2 which summarizes the halacha of the case of&nbsp; Rebbe Akiva Eiger whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return but it is still in his hand?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Based on the machlokes of Rebbe Akiva Eiger and Rav Shach what is the halacha in the cases below?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Is it the same or more of a reason to permit returning to the blech or more of a reason to prohibit? Why?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">1. A pot slides off the blech on to the counter top?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">2. A pot slides to the floor?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">3. The electricity or fire goes out?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">(See \u05d0\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d3 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e2&#8221;\u05d3 \u05d1\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d0, \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4&#8217; \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05de\u05d8 \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1\u05d7, \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05db\u05d6 \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e2\u05d8, \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05d1\u05e6\u05dc \u05d4\u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d4 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d3 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05dc\u05d6 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d8, \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05de\u05d8 \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e4\u05d1)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">4. The electricity goes out and a few hours later goes back on by the electric company and the food remained on hot plate the entire time?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea above)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">5. Someone mistakenly takes the&nbsp;Shabbos&nbsp;day cholent off the fire thinking it is the chicken soup pot for the Friday night sueda and places on the counter without intent to return?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What if he places it on the ground?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">(See \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4&#8217; \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d2\u05dd \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e2\u05d4, \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05db\u05d2 \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e2\u05d4 ,\u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05d1\u05e6\u05dc \u05d4\u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d4 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d3 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05dc\u05d6 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d7, \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d7&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4 \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e2\u05d7)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Halachik Conclusions of \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d7\u05d6\u05e8\u05d4:&nbsp; Learn \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d1 &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05dd \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05d7 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05e7\u05e8\u05e7\u05e2 which summarizes the halacha of the case of&nbsp; Rebbe Akiva Eiger whether it is permitted to return&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,5,67],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32811","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-shabbos"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32811","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32811"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32811\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32820,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32811\/revisions\/32820"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32811"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32811"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32811"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}