{"id":32404,"date":"2024-09-04T22:56:00","date_gmt":"2024-09-04T22:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=32404"},"modified":"2024-09-05T02:56:36","modified_gmt":"2024-09-05T02:56:36","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fifth-perek-wednesday-night-elul-2-daf-54a-09-04-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fifth-perek-wednesday-night-elul-2-daf-54a-09-04-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek &#8211; Wednesday night, Elul 2, Daf 54a (09\/04\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfifthperek09042024-1.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e2&#8221;\u05e9 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d7\u05d2 (two dots &#8211; three lines from top of the Amud) until &#8220;\u05db\u05d9 \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8 \u05e8&#8217; \u05d0\u05d7\u05e8 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d7\u05e0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d0 &#8221; (middle of the Amud)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 &#8220;\u05d4&#8221;\u05d2 \u05dc\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05d6\u05d1\u05d7 very well&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What was unique about the tenth step?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See &#8220;\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d0: &#8220;\u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05e2\u05d5 \u05dc\u05de\u05e2\u05dc\u05d4 \u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05e8\u05d9\u05ea&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Clarify the two explanation Rashi presents to what \u05e9\u05dc\u05e9 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05de\u05d6\u05d1\u05d7 means<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">How does the Rambam explain \u05e2\u05dc \u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05de\u05d6\u05d1\u05d7?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d4-\u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05db\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">There seems to be a contradiction in the Rambam whether they sounded the shofar when they propped the aravah next to the mizbeich or when they did Nisuch Hamayim?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If they sounded the \u05d7\u05e6\u05d5\u05e6\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea when they propped the aravah next to the mizbeich and when they did Nisuch Hamayim then seemingly there should be a total of 51 blasts and not 48?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05d4&#8221;\u05d2 \u05dc\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05d6\u05d1\u05d7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Note<\/strong>: The Rambam says they sounded \u05d7\u05e6\u05d5\u05e6\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea for the opening of the upper and lower gates on every \u05e8\u05d2\u05dc and not just on Sukkos. Rashi disagrees as Rashi says it was exclusive to Sukkos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the source for the Rambam opinion?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the source for the Simchas Beis Hashoava on Sukkos?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0. &#8220;\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05d0\u05d1\u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d7 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d9\u05d1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e2\u05de\u05e7 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4 \u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05ea \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05d0\u05d1\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d0 who ties the entire Sugya together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Quickly review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d2 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 until the two dots on top of .\u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d2: &#8220;\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d3. &#8220;\u05de\u05d4\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Sugya: Pausing \u05db\u05d3\u05d9 \u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d4 between \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Rebbe Yehuda and the Rabanan disagree whether we consider each set of tekios (tekia, Terra, tekia) as one or three. This seems to be just a technical argument: what halachic difference is there between Rabanan and Rebbe Yehuda?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d2: &#8220;\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05db\u05dc\u05d5\u05dd<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d3. &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05d9\u05de\u05d0 \u05d4\u05db\u05d9 \u05e0\u05de\u05d9 who learns a chidush in Hilchos Tekias shofar from our&nbsp;gemara&nbsp;in regards to pausing \u05db\u05d3\u05d9 \u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d4 between the three \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd and between \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Note the disagreement between Rashi and the Ritva.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the &#8220;\u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d2:-\u05e0\u05d3 &#8220;\u05d9\u05d3 \u05dc\u05de\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05de\u05e1\u05d5\u05d2\u05d9\u05d0 \u05d6\u05d5 who argues on the Ritva.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">How do we conclude lhalacha in regards to pausing \u05db\u05d3\u05d9 \u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d4 between the three \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd and between \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e7&#8221;\u05e6 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d3 and the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">According to the opinion that one may pause \u05db\u05d3\u05d9&nbsp;\u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d4 between \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4 if the baal tokea blows them without a pause is the set still valid?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d6 &amp; \u05db<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">According to the opinion that there can be absolutely no break between \u05e9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4 if the baal tokea&nbsp;pauses&nbsp;\u05db\u05d3\u05d9&nbsp;\u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d4&nbsp;is the set still valid?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d7 and (\u05d4\u05d2\u05d4\u05d5\u05ea \u05d7\u05d6\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9 (\u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05dc&#8221;\u05d5 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0 &#8220;\u05d5\u05de\u05d4&#8221; who argues on the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e2&#8221;\u05e9 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d7\u05d2 (two dots &#8211; three lines from top of the Amud) until &#8220;\u05db\u05d9 \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8 \u05e8&#8217; \u05d0\u05d7\u05e8 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d7\u05e0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d0 &#8221; (middle of the Amud)&nbsp; Learn \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 &#8220;\u05d4&#8221;\u05d2 \u05dc\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32404","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32404","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32404"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32404\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32408,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32404\/revisions\/32408"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32404"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32404"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32404"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}