{"id":32279,"date":"2024-08-05T23:51:00","date_gmt":"2024-08-05T23:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=32279"},"modified":"2024-08-06T15:53:50","modified_gmt":"2024-08-06T15:53:50","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fifth-perek-monday-night-shiur-av-2-daf-52a-52b-08-05-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fifth-perek-monday-night-shiur-av-2-daf-52a-52b-08-05-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Sukkah: Fifth Perek &#8211; Monday night shiur, Av 2, Daf 52a-52b (08\/05\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfifthperek08052024-1.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why is Moshiach Ben Dovid so concerned about staying alive?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the need for two Moshiach &#8211; Ben Yosef and Ben Dovid?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d1. &#8220;&#8221;\u05e2\u05dc \u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05d7 \u05d1\u05df \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05de\u05d4\u05e8&#8221;\u05dc \u05e0\u05e6\u05d7 \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d1. &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d5\u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05e6\u05e4\u05d5\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d0\u05e8\u05d7\u05d9\u05e7 &#8221; (third wide line) until \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d1: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d7\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d7\u05d0 .. \u05d3&#8217; \u05de\u05ea\u05d7\u05e8\u05d8 \u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05df \u05d4\u05e7\u05d1&#8221;\u05d4 (second wide line)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the yetzer harah specifically set his sights on talmidim chachamim?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What does it mean the yetzer harah of a great person is stronger than for regular person?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Does the yetzer harah attempt to attract a talmid chacham to base sins?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e9\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 \u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e6\u05d0 page 390<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e2\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 &#8211; \u05d3\u05e2\u05ea \u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9 page 227-228<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05e2\u05dc\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 note from \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d9\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why the need to drag the yetzer harah to the beis medrash instead of saying the person himself should run to the beis medrash?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the message in comparing the yetzer harah to a stone and to iron?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d1\u05df \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d9\u05d3\u05e2&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14473&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=168&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14473&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=168&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e4&#8217; \u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 \u05de\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05db\u05d0 &amp; \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=149\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=149<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=150\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=150<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=13\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14229&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=13<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e4&#8217; \u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 \u05de\u05d2\u05d9\u05dc\u05ea \u05d0\u05e1\u05ea\u05e8 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=20\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=20<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=21\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=21<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See commentary from Rav Brevda zt&#8221;l on this pasuk \u05d1\u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05d5\u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea &#8220;\u05e9\u05d9\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05da \u05ea\u05d0\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea and \u05e2\u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05dc\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05dd \u05d1\u05e1\u05d5\u05e3 \u05d4\u05e1\u05e4\u05e8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the pasuk refer to the fact that yetzer harah testifies against a person in a hidden gematria form?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What kind of parable is the different manifestation of the yetzer harah as stranger, guest, and master?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05d1\u05df \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d9\u05d3\u05e2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14473&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=168&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14473&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=168&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">How do we explain that Hashem regrets as Hashem is perfect and does not make mistakes?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">First place it mentions that Hashem has regret &#8211; \u05d5\u05d9\u05e0\u05d7\u05dd is \u05d1\u05e8\u05d0\u05e9\u05d9\u05ea&nbsp;\u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d5 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See Rav Shamshon Rafael Hirsch on the above pasuk who explains the difference&nbsp;between the regret of Hashem and the regret of man.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">But we still need an explanation of the regret for the four areas listed in our gemara?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=206\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=206<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">and \u05d1\u05df&nbsp;\u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d9\u05d3\u05e2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why specifically these four areas?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=509\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=509<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05d4\u05e8&#8221;\u05dc \u05ea\u05e4\u05d0\u05e8\u05ea \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d2 pg. \u05e8\u05d8 \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 67 (in Rabbi Hartman explanation)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05d4\u05e8&#8221;\u05dc \u05e0\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5\u05ea \u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd &#8211; 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