{"id":32174,"date":"2024-07-17T23:51:00","date_gmt":"2024-07-17T23:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=32174"},"modified":"2024-07-23T03:10:10","modified_gmt":"2024-07-23T03:10:10","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fifth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-tamuz-12-daf-51b-07-17-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fifth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-tamuz-12-daf-51b-07-17-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Sukkah: Fifth Perek &#8211; Wednesday night shiur, Tamuz 12, Daf 51b (07\/17\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfifthperek07172024.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the :\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d0 from after the Mishnah until the two dots<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">If the Jews living in mitzrayim were in violation of the \u05dc\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 prohibiting one to live in Mitzrayim why does the\u00a0gemara\u00a0attribute their settlement\u00a0as the paradigm\u00a0example of the honor of klal yisrael?\u00a0<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Why didn&#8217;t the\u00a0gemara\u00a0know in the question\u00a0that they were in violation of the\u00a0 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 not to return to Mitzrayim?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Why were the Jews living in Mitzrayim\u00a0punished so harshly for living in Mitzrayim\u00a0which is just a\u00a0 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4\u00a0&#8211; culpable at most with lashes and not death?\u00a0<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Were the people who were born and raised in Egypt in violation of the\u00a0 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4\u00a0as they never actually moved to egypt?\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 &#8220;\u05e1\u05d8\u05d9\u05d5 \u05db\u05e4\u05d5\u05dc who answers many of the above questions\u00a0<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=202\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=202<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How was the Rambam permitted to live in Mitzrayim?\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d4&#8217; \u05de\u05dc\u05db\u05d9\u05dd \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d4 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d6-\u05d7 and the \u05e8\u05d3\u05d1&#8221;\u05d6 (on side of the Rambam) who answers this question.\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58968&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=185&amp;hilite=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58968&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=185&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d1. &#8220;\u05d5\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Clarify the two answers of Tosfos&nbsp;as to why the response of Amen based on the signal of the flag was not considered&nbsp;an \u05d0\u05de\u05df \u05d9\u05ea\u05d5\u05de\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Does the opinion of Rav Tzadok&nbsp;Hakohen that Tosfos quotes agree&nbsp;with the first explanation&nbsp;of tosfos or the second answer of Tosfos?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d6. &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05df \u05d9\u05ea\u05d5\u05de\u05d4 with Rashi and Tosfos who asks the same question of Tosfos in&nbsp;Sukkah&nbsp;and only brings the second the answer of Tosfos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&amp;daf=47&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&amp;daf=47&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Why is the punishment so severe for saying an \u05d0\u05de\u05df \u05d9\u05ea\u05d5\u05de\u05d4? See \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05d6 for his explanation on \u05d0\u05de\u05df \u05d9\u05ea\u05d5\u05de\u05d4\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=534&amp;hilite=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=534&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">According to the first answer\u00a0of Tosfos, why is the issue of responding an \u05d0\u05de\u05df \u05d9\u05ea\u05d5\u05de\u05d4\u00a0just in regards to a bracha one is obligated to recite?\u00a0See \u05d7&#8217; \u05e8&#8217; \u05d0\u05e8\u05d9\u05d4 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1 \u05de\u05d0\u05dc\u05d9\u05df \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d4\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=51220&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=24\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=51220&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=24<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">According to the second answer of Tosfos is it permitted to respond Amen to a bracha that one is obligated to recite when he did not hear the bracha but knows exactly which bracha had just been said?\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">List the \u05e0\u05e4\u05e7\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d4 between the two answers\u00a0of Tosfos.\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05db&#8221;\u05d3 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14265&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=204\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14265&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=204<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05db&#8221;\u05d3&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=303\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=303<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the difference between the ruling of the Mechaber and the Rema?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See the Mishna Berura<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Extra &#8211;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d0. &#8220;\u05e9\u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d0: &#8220;\u05e7\u05e8\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Review \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d7 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d9\u05d1-\u05d8\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Who lists the details discussed in the mishnah.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=294\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=294<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Note the differences between the Rambam and the Mishnah&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Questions:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">How could the Ramabm say the setting up of the bleachers for&nbsp;women occurred&nbsp;on Erev Sukkos&nbsp;when the mishnah says it was done the night after the first day of Sukkos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the Ramabm not specify that the musical instruments were played by the Leviim?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the Rambam not list the Chalil as one of the instruments?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the Rambam not mention the blasting&nbsp;of the shofar as the water drawer exited the Beis hamikdash?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8&nbsp; who addresses many of the differences.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=201\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=201<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the Rambam conclude with a whole explanation as to what Simcha is?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Learn the :\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d0 from after the Mishnah until the two dots Questions:&nbsp; Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d1. &#8220;\u05d5\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df Clarify the two answers of Tosfos&nbsp;as to why the response of Amen based on the&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32174","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32174","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32174"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32174\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32177,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32174\/revisions\/32177"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32174"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32174"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32174"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}