{"id":31785,"date":"2024-05-22T23:22:00","date_gmt":"2024-05-22T23:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=31785"},"modified":"2024-05-23T03:22:06","modified_gmt":"2024-05-23T03:22:06","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-monday-night-shiur-iyar-13-daf-49b-50a-05-20-24-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-monday-night-shiur-iyar-13-daf-49b-50a-05-20-24-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Iyar 15 Daf 49b-50a (05\/22\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek05222024.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05de\u05d8: &#8220;\u05db\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d7\u05d5\u05dc (two dots on bottom of the Amud) until the two dots on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Clarify the three different explanations of the Gemara as to why specifically they filled on Friday a barrel that was not \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9\u05ea for the water designated for the \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd of Shabbos&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0. &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05d9 from beginning until &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0&#8221;\u05ea &#8221; which discusses the requirements for drawing the water for \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Continue learning Tosfos from &#8220;\u05d0\u05dd \u05db\u05df \u05d0\u05db\u05ea\u05d9 \u05ea\u05d9\u05e7\u05e9\u05d9 \u05dc\u05df (second to last line of Tosfos) who says that a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e8\u05ea is only \u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 inside the Beis Hamikdash. Why didn&#8217;t they fill up a \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9\u05ea barrel and leave it outside the beis hamikdash until shabbos morning so there would be no disqualification of \u05dc\u05d9\u05e0\u05d4?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See the two answers of Tosfos<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05de\u05e0\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e2\u05d7: &#8220;\u05d0\u05d9\u05ea\u05de\u05e8 \u05ea\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05e9\u05e9\u05d7\u05d8\u05d4 (half way down the wide lines &#8211; begining of line) until &#8220;\u05e8\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e4\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=30&amp;daf=78b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=30&amp;daf=78b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Major Question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">There seems to be a direct contradiction in the opinion of \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d9\u05d4. Our Gemara says \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d9\u05d4 holds a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e8\u05ea is only \u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 \u05de\u05d3\u05e2\u05ea and the Gemara Menachos according to \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 explanation of \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp; holds a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e8\u05ea is \u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 even \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05de\u05d3\u05e2\u05ea?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05d4\u05e9\u05de\u05d8\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05d9\u05d8\u05d4 \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e6\u05ea in back of Gemara Menachos on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e2\u05d7 for an answer<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14318&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=583\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14318&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=583<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0. &#8220;\u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Note &#8211; the difference between the way the \u05e9\u05d9\u05d8\u05ea \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e6\u05ea and Tosfos asks on the Gemara Menachos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05de\u05d8: &#8220;\u05db\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d7\u05d5\u05dc (two dots on bottom of the Amud) until the two dots on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0&nbsp; Clarify the three different explanations of the Gemara as to why specifically they filled&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31785","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31785","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31785"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31785\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31787,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31785\/revisions\/31787"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31785"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31785"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31785"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}