{"id":31432,"date":"2024-03-11T22:14:00","date_gmt":"2024-03-11T22:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=31432"},"modified":"2024-03-12T02:15:04","modified_gmt":"2024-03-12T02:15:04","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-monday-night-shiur-adar-sheini-2-daf-48b-03-11-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-monday-night-shiur-adar-sheini-2-daf-48b-03-11-24\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Monday night shiur, Adar Sheini 2, Daf 48b (03\/11\/24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek03112024.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Review the first two lines of the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d7: &#8220;\u05de\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05dc\u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Review \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d7: &#8220;\u05de\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05dc\u05d9&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Tosfos explained the chidush from the pasuk \u05d5\u05e9\u05d0\u05d1\u05ea\u05dd \u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05e9\u05e9\u05d5\u05df that only water from a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df &#8211; spring is kosher for Nisuch Hamayim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d1\u05d1\u05d0 \u05d1\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e2\u05d8. &#8220;\u05de\u05d9\u05dd<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=23&amp;daf=79&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=23&amp;daf=79&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d1\u05d1\u05d0 \u05d1\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e1: &#8220;\u05de\u05d9\u05dd<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=23&amp;daf=60b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=23&amp;daf=60b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Major Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If only water from a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df is acceptable for \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd how was water from the kiyor able to be used as a backup?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d6\u05d1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db\u05d1: &#8220;\u05d3\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df (third line from top of the Amud) until the two dots. Which brings a machlokes whether the water of the kiyor needed to be from a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=29&amp;daf=22b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=29&amp;daf=22b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">According to Rashi is water from a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df required?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=189\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=189<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05ea\u05de\u05d9\u05d3\u05d9\u05df \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d5-\u05d6 for the Rambam interpretation of the Mishna&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=177\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=177<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d7: &#8220;\u05d4\u05e0\u05d4\u05d5 \u05ea\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9 until the two dots.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does the Gemara bring a seemingly foolish argument of two heretics?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does \u05e8&#8217; \u05d0\u05d1\u05d4\u05d5 answer the heretic with the same interpretation of the pasuk that the heretic named Simcha said above?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0 on the Gemara<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=506\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=506<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the difference between \u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05d4 and \u05e9\u05e9\u05d5\u05df?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e4\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9 \u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 \u05de\u05d2\u05dc\u05ea \u05d0\u05e1\u05ea\u05e8 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d7 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d8\u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=38\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=38<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05e2\u05d6\u05e8\u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">In the shemoneh esreh of Yom tov we say \u05de\u05d5\u05e2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05d6\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05e9\u05e9\u05d5\u05df. Why are \u05de\u05d5\u05e2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd referenced with \u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05d4 and the \u05d7\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05d6\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd with \u05e9\u05e9\u05d5\u05df?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See the commentary of \u05e9\u05d9\u05d7 \u05d9\u05e6\u05d7\u05e7 in the \u05e1\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 on page 725 of the Yom tov shemoneh esrei<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=21127&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=370\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=21127&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=370<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See the \u05de\u05dc\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05d9\u05e9\u05e2\u05d9\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the source for \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d1: &#8220;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d1\u05df \u05d1\u05ea\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until the two dots in middle of \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&amp;daf=2b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&amp;daf=2b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the connection between what day we start saying \u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05d1 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d5\u05d7 to the day of \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05e8\u05d0\u05e9 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d8\u05d6 and \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 &#8220;\u05ea\u05e0\u05d9\u05d0 \u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8&#8221;\u05e2 (in middle of the medium size lines) until &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d4\u05d5&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&amp;daf=16&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&amp;daf=16&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Major Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">How is it permitted to use the skin to make a water canteen when the halacha is the body of a dead person is \u05d0\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d1\u05d4\u05e0\u05d0\u05d4?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d9\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e2\u05d4 \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e9\u05de&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=9732&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=587\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=9732&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=587<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=187\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=187<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05ea \u05d9\u05e2\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e4&#8221;\u05d8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=1519&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=42\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=1519&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=42<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea from Hagaon Harav Elyashiv<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the source for \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d1: &#8220;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d1\u05df \u05d1\u05ea\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until the two dots in middle of \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&amp;daf=2b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&amp;daf=2b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the connection between what day we start saying \u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05d1 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d5\u05d7 to the day of \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05e8\u05d0\u05e9 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d8\u05d6 and \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 &#8220;\u05ea\u05e0\u05d9\u05d0 \u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8&#8221;\u05e2 (in middle of the medium size lines) until &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d4\u05d5&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&amp;daf=16&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&amp;daf=16&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">When exactly is the \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd done?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1: &#8220;\u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05ea\u05de\u05d9\u05d3\u05d9\u05df \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=177\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=177<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d1: &#8220;\u05d0\u05d9\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d4\u05d5 (two dots)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&amp;daf=2b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&amp;daf=2b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">See \u05d9\u05d5\u05e8\u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d9 \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d3 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=47651&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=75\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=47651&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=75<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">And \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea from Hagaon Harav Elyashiv<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Review the first two lines of the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d7: &#8220;\u05de\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05dc\u05d9 Review \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d7: &#8220;\u05de\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05dc\u05d9&nbsp; Questions: Tosfos explained the chidush from the pasuk \u05d5\u05e9\u05d0\u05d1\u05ea\u05dd \u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05e9\u05e9\u05d5\u05df that only water&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31432","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31432","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31432"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31432\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31434,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31432\/revisions\/31434"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31432"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31432"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31432"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}