{"id":31021,"date":"2023-12-20T23:46:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-20T23:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=31021"},"modified":"2023-12-26T04:47:27","modified_gmt":"2023-12-26T04:47:27","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-teves-9-daf-46b-12-20-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-teves-9-daf-46b-12-20-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Teves 9, Daf 46b (12\/20\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek12202023.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Sugya: Gifting Daled Minim to a Katan&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5: &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d6\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d9\u05e7\u05e0\u05d9 until \u05d5\u05d1\u05e4\u05dc\u05d5\u05d2\u05ea\u05d0&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d7 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=293\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=293<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why does the Rambam not differentiate between what the age of the minor is?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05db\u05e1\u05e3 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 and \u05dc\u05d7\u05dd \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 who argue on the opinion of the Rambam&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Halachik Conclusion:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=265\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=265<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Questions:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the point of argument between the two opinions brought in the Shulchan Aruch?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 &#8220;\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05ea\u05e0\u05e0\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the Rambam \/ first opinion in the Shulchan Aruch the regifting of the Daled Minim from the child to the adult is only valid \u05de\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why doesn&#8217;t a \u05e7\u05e0\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df work even \u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 as the rabanan through the power of \u05d4\u05e4\u05e7\u05e8 \u05d1&#8221;\u05d3 \u05d4\u05e4\u05e7\u05e8 has the ability to transfer possession of assets?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(See \u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05e9\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d7.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=349\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=349<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a major discussion in the gedolei achronim see \u05d0\u05d1\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05dc\u05d5\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05db&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d2, \u05de\u05d7\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d0\u05e4\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d1, \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8&nbsp; \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d9\u05d6 )&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is this an issue even on the Yom Tov Sheini (in chutz laaretz) of Sukkos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db\u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does a father fulfill his Mitzvah of Chinuch if he lends the Daled Minim to his son?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d7, \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db\u05d7&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=403\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=403<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In practice should one purchase Daled Minim for his children?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d4\u05dc\u05d9\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d0 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d9\u05d0,, \u05d0\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e2\u05d4 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05dc\u05d6, \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the best method to lend the Daled Minim to a minor? See \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d9\u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=64808&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=420\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=64808&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=420<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sugya: Gifting Daled Minim to a Katan&nbsp; Very quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5: &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d6\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d9\u05e7\u05e0\u05d9 until \u05d5\u05d1\u05e4\u05dc\u05d5\u05d2\u05ea\u05d0&#8221; Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d7 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d9 https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=293 Question: Why does the Rambam&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31021","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31021","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31021"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31021\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31023,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31021\/revisions\/31023"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31021"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31021"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31021"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}