{"id":30763,"date":"2023-11-23T18:20:00","date_gmt":"2023-11-23T18:20:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=30763"},"modified":"2023-11-27T03:35:13","modified_gmt":"2023-11-27T03:35:13","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-second-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-kislev-10-daf-19b-11-23-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-second-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-kislev-10-daf-19b-11-23-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Eruvin: Second Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Kislev 10, Daf 19b\u00a0(11\/23\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinsecondperek11232023-3.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the second &#8220;\u05d1\u05e2\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 \u05de\u05e8\u05d1\u05d4&#8221; (sixth wide line) until the third \u05d1\u05e2\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 (middle of the Amud)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">What is the uncertainty of \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 have reason to believe \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 would have a different position than \u05e8&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8 in regards to this question?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">There are three explanations in the Rishonim<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">1. Learn Rashi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">2. Learn \u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">3. Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d4&#8217; \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05db\u05d8 and the \u05d7&#8217; \u05e8&#8221;\u05df&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05dd&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Bring a proof from \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1 according to which of the three explanations of the first inquiry of \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 he is aligned with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The Gemara quotes \u05e8&#8221;\u05d9 who says there is a difference in size of gaps between \u05e4\u05e1\u05d9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea (allowed 13 1\/3 Amos) and \u05de\u05d7\u05d9\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea (allowed 10 Amos). This contradicts what \u05e8&#8221;\u05d9 said in the first Mishna that the fourth side of a mavui can have gap of 13 1\/3 Amos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 for an answer&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn the third &#8220;\u05d1\u05e2\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 \u05de\u05e8\u05d1\u05d4&#8221; (middle of the Amud) until the fourth \u05d1\u05e2\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 (nine lines from the bottom of the Amud)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why is it necessary to view the \u05ea\u05dc \u05d4\u05de\u05ea\u05dc\u05e7\u05d8 as carved out in order to be an acceptable \u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05de\u05d3? Why is it not sufficient the fact that their is an Amah of a mechitza on each side?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why does a round pillar need to be viewed as carved out and squared in order to be an acceptable \u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05de\u05d3? Why does it matter that the outside face plate is round? (See \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d0\u05de\u05ea)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">There are two approaches to answer these questions<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d7\u05d6\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Learn \u05d7&#8217; \u05de\u05d4\u05e8&#8221;\u05dc<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Learn the second &#8220;\u05d1\u05e2\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 \u05de\u05e8\u05d1\u05d4&#8221; (sixth wide line) until the third \u05d1\u05e2\u05d0 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 (middle of the Amud) Questions: What is the uncertainty of \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9? 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