{"id":30417,"date":"2023-09-27T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-09-27T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=30417"},"modified":"2023-09-28T17:15:14","modified_gmt":"2023-09-28T17:15:14","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-tishrei-13-daf-45b-46a-bracha-leisheiv-bsukkah-09-27-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-tishrei-13-daf-45b-46a-bracha-leisheiv-bsukkah-09-27-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Tishrei 13 Daf 45b-46a Bracha Leisheiv bSukkah (09\/27\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek09272023.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Topic: \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4 \u05dc\u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Based on the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4: &#8220;\u05d0\u05d7\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Tosfos why is the bracha on Sukkah recited specifically on eating or sleeping inside the Sukkah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d2 starting from \u05d5\u05de\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05de\u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e9\u05e2\u05ea \u05e9\u05d9\u05e0\u05d4 who quotes \u05e8&#8221;\u05ea who says the minhag is that a bracha on the Sukkah is only recited when eating inside the Sukkah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bring a proof whether the Rosh agrees with this minhag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=482\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=482<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to \u05e8&#8221;\u05ea why is the bracha on Sukkah recited specifically on eating?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If someone will sit inside a Sukkah but will not be eating or sleeping should he recite a bracha?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the conclusion of the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5&nbsp;&nbsp; , when does someone recite the bracha for the mitzvah of Sukkah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See the \u05e8\u05d9\u05e3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the Rambam if someone walks out from his Sukkah for a few minutes does he need to make a new bracha when he returns?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05d2\u05d9\u05d3 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 &#8220;\u05db\u05dc \u05d6\u05de\u05df and \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05de\u05e0\u05d5\u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=281\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=281<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the difference between them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d0: &#8220;\u05e9\u05db\u05d1\u05e8 starting from &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0&#8221;\u05ea \u05de\u05d0\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d0 \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 until &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8&#8221;\u05ea&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1 &#8216;\u05d9\u05d2&nbsp; starting from &#8220;\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 \u05d1\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d0\u05dc \u05e8&#8221;\u05d9 until \u05d5\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05db\u05d9\u05dd&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a dispute in the&nbsp;Rishonim as to when someone should&nbsp;recite the bracha for the mitzvah of Sukkah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tosfos&nbsp;<\/strong>(&#8220;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4: &#8220;\u05d0\u05d7\u05d3) &#8211; Before one eats, drink, or sleeps in the sukkah&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Rif &amp; Rambam<\/strong>&nbsp;(\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d9\u05d1 ) &#8211; Each time one enters the sukkah to remain for a while.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Rabbeinu Tam<\/strong>&nbsp;(\u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d2) &#8211; Minhag is to only make the bracha before eating inside the Sukkah<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Halachik Conclusion:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How do we conclude in halacha as to when the bracha for the mitzvah of Sukkah should be said?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05dc&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d7 who says the minhag is to make the bracha when you eat inside the Sukkah<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=373\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=373<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If someone will sit inside a Sukkah but will not be eating or sleeping should he recite a bracha?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1 &#8216;\u05d9\u05d2 starting from &#8220;\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 \u05d1\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d0\u05dc \u05e8&#8221;\u05d9 until \u05d5\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05db\u05d9\u05dd<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=144\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=144<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d8&#8221;\u05d6 \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05dc\u05d8 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db (last line)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05de\u05d7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does someone who leaves in the middle of his meal inside of Sukkah to visit his friend need to make a new bracha when he sits in his friend&#8217;s sukkah?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05dc\u05d8 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d6 starting from &#8220;\u05d5\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05dc\u05da (towards the end)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=373\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=373<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05de\u05d7 starting from &#8220;\u05d5\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05dc\u05da (in the middle)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=216\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=216<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d9\u05d2&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the Mishna Berura would he have to make a bracha if he is not eating in his friends sukkah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05e6\u05d2&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If one leaves his Sukkah to daven Mincha and returned right away does he have to make a new bracha on the Sukkah<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05de\u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d8\u05d5-\u05d8\u05d6&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is the bracha one recites on his own sukkah not effective for someone else&#8217;s sukkah?Learn \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05e6\u05d3&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05dc&#8221;\u05d8 \u05db\u05d7&nbsp;See \u05d4\u05dc\u05d9\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d9\u05d1 A<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>nd footnote \u05db\u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If someone is going to sleep inside his sukkah and will not be atig does he recite a bracha?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05de\u05d7&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d4\u05dc\u05d9\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d8\u05d6<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Topic: \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4 \u05dc\u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4&nbsp; 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