{"id":30112,"date":"2023-08-17T13:28:00","date_gmt":"2023-08-17T13:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=30112"},"modified":"2023-08-17T17:27:15","modified_gmt":"2023-08-17T17:27:15","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-rosh-chodesh-elul-daf-14a-14b-08-17-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-rosh-chodesh-elul-daf-14a-14b-08-17-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Eruvin: First Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Rosh Chodesh Elul, Daf 14a-14b (08\/17\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinfirstperek08172023.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 (three lines before the medium size lines) until &#8220;\u05e2\u05d2\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4&#8221; (two dots &#8211; sixth line from bottom of the Amud)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why according to the Rabanan does a \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 which is four tefachim wide not need to be strong enough to support a brick?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is a four tefachim wide \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 made from straw or twigs kosher?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e1&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 &#8220;\u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05db\u05d1 that two \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea combined can only be maximum one tefach apart from one another. Could they combine to create a \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 which is four tefachim wide and therefore be allowed to be 2 1\/2 tefachim apart from one another ?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e1&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05db\u05d1 &#8220;\u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What if the physical material of the \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea total four tefachim but there are gaps in between?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d4\u05e9\u05d2\u05ea \u05d7\u05d6\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions on the Gemara earlier on the Amud<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara brought a scenerio where a mat is placed over a \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 and the mat is suspended in the air 3 tefachim or more from the ground. The \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 is disqualified because it is not visible and the mat does not serve as a mechitza since there is a gap of three tefachim between it and the ground.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the opinion of \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05de\u05d7\u05d9\u05e6\u05d4 why should it matter that the \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 is not visible it should still function as a mechitza?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why can&#8217;t the mat itself be considered a \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3 &#8220;\u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05db\u05d0\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 &#8220;\u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05d7 \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How is it possible to have an opinion of \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05de\u05d7\u05d9\u05e6\u05d4 as the mechitza is suspended above three tefachim from the ground?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3 &#8220;\u05de\u05d7\u05d9\u05e6\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05db\u05d0\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05d7&#8217; \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3 &#8220;\u05d5\u05d9\u05e9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05e9\u05d0\u05dc\u05d5&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How could a Lechi be considered a mechitza when animals are able to walk right past it?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e2\u05d2\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4&nbsp; (two dots &#8211; sixth line from bottom of the Amud) until the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara is very exacting with the mathematical calculation of the ratio of the circumference of a circle to the diameter (3:1) taking into consideration the thickness of the walls of the basin.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How could this be when the real&nbsp;ratio of the circumference of a circle to the diameter is pi (3.14:1)?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0\u05d9\u05db\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e4&#8217; \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1 says since \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 is only required mdrabanan they are lenient even to consider the width of tefach even though it is a little narrower.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05e9&nbsp; who asks what about the opinion that lechi and Korah is a Halacha Lmoshe M&#8217;sinai?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e2&#8221;\u05d1 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d9\u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05d7\u05d6\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Very quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 (three lines before the medium size lines) until &#8220;\u05e2\u05d2\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4&#8221; 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