{"id":30071,"date":"2023-08-10T20:15:00","date_gmt":"2023-08-10T20:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=30071"},"modified":"2023-08-11T00:14:55","modified_gmt":"2023-08-11T00:14:55","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-24-daf-14a-08-10-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-24-daf-14a-08-10-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Eruvin: First Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Av 24, Daf 14a (08\/10\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinfirstperek08102023.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3 &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05e9\u05e9\u05ea until the two dots (two lines before the medium size lines)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why does \u05e8&#8217; 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\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05db\u05d4 with the \u05de\u05d2\u05d9\u05d3 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 who explains the Rambam argues on \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05e0\u05ea\u05df and asks on the Rambam how could we combine two \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea&nbsp; that are at different elevations even with distance greater then three tefachim when the Gemara Sukkah says we do not combine&nbsp; them when the width of the beam is less than a tefach wide (same question as \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d5\u05d1\u05dc\u05d1\u05d3) ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05db\u05e1\u05e3 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 for a different explanation in the Rambam and different answer to Tosfos&nbsp; question<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=77\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=77<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05d0\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e1&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05db\u05d1-\u05db\u05d2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do the Rabanan agree to the concept of \u05e8\u05d5\u05d0\u05d9\u05df?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05e0\u05ea\u05df on the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d2 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d2: &#8220;\u05e2\u05e7\u05d5\u05de\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=21\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=21<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d3. &#8220;\u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 (two lines before the medium size lines) until &#8220;\u05e2\u05d2\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4&#8221; (two dots &#8211; fourth wode line)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why according to the Rabanan does a \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 which is four tefachim wide not need to be strong enough to support a brick?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is a four tefachim wide \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 made from straw or twigs kosher?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e1&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 &#8220;\u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=61<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the first opinion of the Shulchan Aruch \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05db\u05d1 that two \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea combined can be up to three tefachim apart from one another. 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