{"id":30068,"date":"2023-08-03T13:21:00","date_gmt":"2023-08-03T13:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=30068"},"modified":"2023-08-10T03:23:55","modified_gmt":"2023-08-10T03:23:55","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-16-daf-13b-08-03-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-16-daf-13b-08-03-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Eruvin: First Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Av 16, Daf 13b (08\/03\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinfirstperek08032023.mp3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to Download<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Review the Gemara \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d2: &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d4\u05d5 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df (middle of the narrow lines) until &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e9\u05de\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc &#8221; (four lines before the wide lines)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the greatness of finding reasonings which are not correct for example being \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05d8\u05de\u05d0?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d7&#8217; \u05d0\u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1\u05e0\u05d4\u05d3\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 &#8220;\u05dc\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e8\u05e5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14302&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=259\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14302&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=259<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the Gemara from &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e9\u05de\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc &#8221; (four lines before the wide lines) until &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05e9\u05ea\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05d7\u05e6\u05d4 &#8221; (four lines before the Mishna)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How is it possible for both opinions to be \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d0\u05dc\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd when they are contradictory?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 &#8220;\u05d0\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d5\u05d0\u05dc\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=21\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=21<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d7&#8217; \u05d0\u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05ea \u05d7\u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d2 &#8220;\u05e0\u05ea\u05e0\u05d5 (in middle)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14306&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=571\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14306&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=571<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d1\u05d1\u05d0 \u05de\u05e6\u05d9\u05e2\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d8 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 says we don&#8217;t listen to a \u05d1\u05ea \u05e7\u05d5\u05dc as Torah is not in the heaven. How could the Bas Kol rule the Halacha is like Beis Hillel?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d5: &#8220;\u05db\u05d0\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara lists two qualities of Beis Hillel as the reason why the Halacha is in accordance to Beis Hillel.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How does the quality of \u05e0\u05d5\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05e2\u05dc\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df help to determine the Halacha like Beis Hillel?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 \u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d5 (page \u05e7\u05e0\u05d0) &amp; \u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05de\u05d6 (page \u05e7\u05e6\u05d8)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How does the fact that Beis Hillel quoted the opinion of Beis Shamai and presented Beis Shamai opinion first help to determine the Halacha like Beis Hillel?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 \u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05d9 (page \u05de\u05d0) &amp; \u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e2\u05d5 (page \u05e9\u05dc\u05d3)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Continue learning the Gemara from &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05e9\u05ea\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05d7\u05e6\u05d4 &#8221; (four lines before the Mishna) until the Mishna&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the difference between \u05de\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d4 \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05d5, \u05de\u05d7\u05d6\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d7\u05e8 \u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4 &amp; \u05d3\u05d5\u05d7\u05e7 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05e2\u05d4?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14312&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=266\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14312&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=266<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the difference between \u05d9\u05e4\u05e9\u05e4\u05e9 \u05d1\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d5 and \u05d9\u05de\u05e9\u05de\u05e9 \u05d1\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d5?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See Rashi&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is it more \u05e0\u05d5\u05d7 for man not to be created?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If it was better for man not to have been created why did ,Hashem create man?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Tanaaim did not spend time debating philosophical ideas unless it had some application to Torah and Avodas Hashem. What practical difference does this debate and conclusion of mans creation have in our lives?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the Gemara telling us that now man is created \u05d9\u05e4\u05e9\u05e4\u05e9 \u05d1\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d5 and \u05d9\u05de\u05e9\u05de\u05e9 \u05d1\u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d5? 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