{"id":30038,"date":"2023-08-02T22:05:00","date_gmt":"2023-08-02T22:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=30038"},"modified":"2023-08-03T02:04:59","modified_gmt":"2023-08-03T02:04:59","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-av-16-daf-44b-08-02-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-av-16-daf-44b-08-02-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Av 16 Daf 44b (08\/02\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek08022023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Quickly review the &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5 until next &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Questions:<br>In conclusion of the Gemara is the taking of Aravos on Hoshana Rabbah \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 or \u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05d2 \u05e0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd?<br>What do we conclude lhalacha in regards to making a bracha on taking the Aravos?<br>Learn \u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e1&#8221;\u05d3 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d1 for a few different opinions<br>https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=595<br>And \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d1, \u05d3-\u05d5 with the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 for final conclusion<br>https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=271<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Major Question:<br>The \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d2 concluded that Aravah was \u05d1\u05e0\u05d8\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4 &#8211; everyone waved the Aravos each day of Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash and the \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 replicates the way it was performed in the Beis Hamikdash &amp; on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3 the aravos were taken when encircling the Mizbaich.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The gemara concluded that Hoshanos we&#8217;re instituted \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 for the \u05e0\u05d8\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4 which was walking around the mizbaich?<br>Why is our minhag to walk around the bima each day of Sukkos with the set of Daled Minim one time and on Hoshana Rabbah seven times. We should be holding aravos as they did in the Beis Hamikdash when they circled the Mizbaich?<br>See \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 &amp; \u05d1&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d2<br>https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=595<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quickly review the &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5 until next &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5 Questions:In conclusion of the Gemara is the taking of Aravos on Hoshana Rabbah \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 or \u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05d2 \u05e0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd?What do we conclude lhalacha&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30038","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30038","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30038"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30038\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":30039,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30038\/revisions\/30039"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30038"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30038"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30038"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}