{"id":29892,"date":"2023-07-05T23:18:00","date_gmt":"2023-07-05T23:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29892"},"modified":"2023-07-06T03:22:26","modified_gmt":"2023-07-06T03:22:26","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-tamuz-17-daf-43b-44a-07-05-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-tamuz-17-daf-43b-44a-07-05-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Tamuz 17, Daf 43b-44a (07\/05\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek07052023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the&nbsp;Gemara&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3. &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until \u05d0\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d6\u05d1\u05d9\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The&nbsp;Gemara&nbsp;presents three answers as to why Aravos (Hoshanos) are only taken one day \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 even though in the Beis Hamikdash aravos were taken all seven days of Sukkos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the first proposed answer does Rava believe that indeed there is a Mitzvah to take aravos all seven days of Sukkos&nbsp;\u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the final answer of the&nbsp;Gemara&nbsp;why does the fact that there is no Mitzvah from the Torah to take aravos outside of the Beis Hamikdash affect the decision of instituting a mitzvah of&nbsp;Aravah&nbsp;all seven days&nbsp;\u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 as was done in the Beis Hamikdash?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 &#8220;\u05de\u05d0\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d0&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Ritva_on_Sukkah.44a.1?lang=bi\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Ritva_on_Sukkah.44a.1?lang=bi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05db\u05d0-\u05db\u05d1 and \u05de\u05d2\u05d9\u05d3 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=287\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=287<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Rambam seems to offer an entirely new reason than the&nbsp;Gemara&nbsp;as to why mitzvah the of&nbsp;Aravah&nbsp;is only one day&nbsp;\u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 for an explanation for the Rambam<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=171\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=171<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to \u05d0\u05d1\u05d0 \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05dc the mitzvah of&nbsp;Aravah&nbsp;in the Beis Hamikdash is learnt from the words \u05e2\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05e0\u05d7\u05dc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d3. &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05d7\u05ea who asks where in the pasuk is it indicated that it&#8217;s limited to Beis Hamikdash?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05e8\u05d0\u05e9&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14724&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14724&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=60<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=125\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=125<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Learn the&nbsp;Gemara&nbsp;&#8220;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3. &#8220;\u05d0&#8221;\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until \u05d0\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d6\u05d1\u05d9\u05d3 The&nbsp;Gemara&nbsp;presents three answers as to why Aravos (Hoshanos) are only taken one day \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 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