{"id":29752,"date":"2023-06-08T16:47:00","date_gmt":"2023-06-08T16:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29752"},"modified":"2023-06-08T20:47:15","modified_gmt":"2023-06-08T20:47:15","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-sivan-19-daf-11a-11b-06-08-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-sivan-19-daf-11a-11b-06-08-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Eruvin: First Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9 Sivan 18, Daf 11a-11b (06\/08\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinfirstperek06082023.mp3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to Download<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d0 until the two dots on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d0 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 brings the opinion of \u05e8\u05d1 that&nbsp;a \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e4\u05ea\u05d7 can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rav Yosef understands that \u05e8\u05d1 would also disqualify multiple \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e4\u05ea\u05d7 on openings&nbsp;less than 10 Amos if there are more openings than closures &#8211; \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05e5 \u05de\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d4 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05de\u05d3.&nbsp; The Gemara tries to prove this position but is unsuccessful.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara also attempts&nbsp;to bring a proof&nbsp;that \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df agrees to the opinion of \u05e8\u05d1 that&nbsp;a \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e4\u05ea\u05d7 can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos but does not have a source.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How do we conclude l&#8217;halacha?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d7&#8217; \u05e8&#8221;\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d0: &#8220;\u05dc\u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d4&#8217; \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8\u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d8\u05d6&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Note how the Ramabam rules<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Rambam concludes that each situation individually a \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e4\u05ea\u05d7 is valid. However when both are combined in a case of an opening wider than 10 Amos and \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05e5 \u05de\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d4 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05de\u05d3 than it is disqualified.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If each situation independently&nbsp;is valid, why is the combination deadly?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our Gemara said the source to disqualify a \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e4\u05ea\u05d7&nbsp; when there are more openings than closures &#8211; \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05e5 \u05de\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d4 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05de\u05d3 is from the halacha of Rav who rules a \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e4\u05ea\u05d7 can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos. 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