{"id":29669,"date":"2023-05-24T22:52:00","date_gmt":"2023-05-24T22:52:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29669"},"modified":"2023-05-25T02:49:14","modified_gmt":"2023-05-25T02:49:14","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-sivan-5-daf-42b-43a-05-24-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-fourth-perek-wednesday-night-shiur-sivan-5-daf-42b-43a-05-24-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Sivan 5, Daf 42b-43a (05\/24\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahfourthperek05242023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 from after the Mishna until &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d4&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is an article that it&#8217;s functionality is exclusively for the purpose of a mitzvah (for example &#8211;&nbsp;lulav) considered muktzah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We learnt &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea &#8220;\u05d8\u05dc\u05d8\u05d5\u05dc that although it&#8217;s function is for a mitzvah since the item is not essentially a kli it is muktzah therefore Daled Minim are muktzeh on Shabbos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We learnt a machlokes between the Rema and the Taz as to what category of muktzah is a&nbsp;Lulav&nbsp;on Shabbos of Sukkos<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d5\u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; 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