{"id":29410,"date":"2023-03-27T23:50:00","date_gmt":"2023-03-27T23:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29410"},"modified":"2023-03-28T03:49:26","modified_gmt":"2023-03-28T03:49:26","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-wednesday-night-shiur-rosh-chodesh-nissan-daf-42a-03-22-23-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-wednesday-night-shiur-rosh-chodesh-nissan-daf-42a-03-22-23-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Monday night shiur, Nissan 6, Daf 42a (03\/27\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek03272023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the first few lines of the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1 from after the Mishna until the two dots.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the reason one may not add new water to the Daled Minim on Shabbos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the reason one may not replace the water on YomTov?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the chidush that one may replace the water on chol hamoed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the Ran&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=623&amp;hilite=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=623&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rashi &amp; the Ran say the reason adding water is prohibited on Yom tov is because \u05d8\u05e8\u05d7 \u05dc\u05ea\u05e7\u05d5\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05e0\u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the issue \u05d8\u05d9\u05e8\u05d7\u05d0 or \u05ea\u05d9\u05e7\u05d5\u05df \u05de\u05e0\u05d0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d3 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d0 &amp; \u05d1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=64808&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=414\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=64808&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=414<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d7\u05e0\u05e0\u05d0\u05dc on the side of the Gemara.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the reason of Rashi the same as \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d7\u05e0\u05e0\u05d0\u05dc?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05dc\u05d5 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=368\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=368<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=257\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=257<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There seems to be a contradiction between these two halachos as \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d3 says one may only return flowers to water but the \u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 says it is permitted to place branches in water on Shabbos?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05e0\u05d3 for an answer&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the vase the Daled Minim spilled can one return them to a different vase that is already filled with water?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If one forgot to place flowers in water before Shabbos may they be placed in the water on Shabbos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05dc&#8221;\u05d5 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05d7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the first few lines of the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 until the two dots.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the conclusion of the Gemara, what is the reason that the Daled Minim are not muktzah for women?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn Rashi&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d4&#8217; \u05d0\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 on side of the \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 at the end of \u05e1&#8217; \u05dc\u05d2&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=481&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=481&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clarify the two different explanations in the \u05e7\u05de&#8221;\u05dc&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the reason that women would not be able to recite a bracha on a \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d6\u05de\u05df \u05d2\u05e8\u05de\u05d0? (See \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05e2\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05e6\u05d5.&nbsp;\u05d3\u05d9\u05dc\u05de\u05d0&nbsp;(in middle part on \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=3&amp;daf=96b&amp;format=pdf\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=3&amp;daf=96b&amp;format=pdf<\/a>&nbsp;)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the proof of the \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d6\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2 that women may recite a bracha&nbsp;on a \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d6\u05de\u05df \u05d2\u05e8\u05de\u05d0 perhaps she can perform the mitzvah just may not make the bracha?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e8\u05d0\u05e9 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d2. &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0 \u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd \u05de\u05e2\u05db\u05d1\u05d9\u05df who says that if a women performs a \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d6\u05de\u05df \u05d2\u05e8\u05de\u05d0 she is in violation of \u05d1\u05dc \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9\u05e3&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&amp;daf=33&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&amp;daf=33&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Halacha Conclusion:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How do we conclude lhalacha in regards to women performing&nbsp;a \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d6\u05de\u05df \u05d2\u05e8\u05de\u05d0 and making a bracha on the mitzvah?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e6\u05d9\u05e6\u05d9\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d2 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d1 and \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e7\u05e4&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is something that is usable for some people considered a utensil and therefore is not considered muktzah for everyone else?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d1 with the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=227\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=227<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s the status of medicine on Shabbos?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05db\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d4 \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d3 with the footnote in the asterisk.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If there is a sick person and it&#8217;s suitable for him. 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