{"id":29326,"date":"2023-03-09T23:41:00","date_gmt":"2023-03-09T23:41:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29326"},"modified":"2023-03-10T04:41:14","modified_gmt":"2023-03-10T04:41:14","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-adar-16-daf-8b-03-09-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-adar-16-daf-8b-03-09-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Eruvin: First Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Adar 16, Daf 8b (03\/09\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinfirstperek03092023.mp3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to Download<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Conclusion of Sugya \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d0\u05dc\u05db\u05e1\u05d5\u05df<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d7: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05db\u05d4\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05ea\u05d7\u05dc\u05d9\u05e4\u05d0&#8221; until &#8220;\u05d0\u05d9\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d4\u05d5 \u05de\u05d4\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d4\u05e9\u05ea\u05de\u05e9 \u05ea\u05d7\u05ea \u05d4\u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Review \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tosfos gives two answers.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s the difference between the two answers?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 &#8211; note how he answers Tosfos question.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=13\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=13<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the difference between Tosfos and the Ritva answers?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rava holds the Korah must be placed straight and not on an angle because a Korah is just considered a \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05e8 and placing a Korah on an angle is not a \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05e8.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tosfos \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05d7 asked according to Rav Kahana how could it be permitted to carry along the border of the Korah even opposite the long wall as there are only&nbsp;two walls blocking in this part of the Mavui and need minimum of three walls to make it a reshus&nbsp;hayachid. Tosfos first answer is according to Rav Kahana Korah is Mechitza and therefore&nbsp;there really are three walls.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rava explains his position that one must place the Korah on straight from the edge of the short wall and parallel to the opposite wall to the edge of the long wall because&nbsp; \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05e8 and if place the Korah on an angle its not a \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05e8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why doesn&#8217;t Rava just simply say the reason is \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05e8 and therefore if place the Korah on an angle from the short side to the long side you will only have two walls?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Rava if one places the Korah on an angle from the edge of the short wall to the edge of the long wall would it be permitted to carry in the back part of the Mavui from the inside of the short wall?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e1&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05dc &#8220;\u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05d7 who brings a dispute between the Machatzits Hashekel and Pri Megadim regarding this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=66\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=66<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05de\u05d7\u05e6\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05e7\u05dc \u05e1&#8217; \u05e9\u05e1&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05dc for his Chidush and the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05de\u05e9\u05d1\u05e6\u05d5\u05ea \u05d6\u05d4\u05d1 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db\u05d0 who argues and based on his position answers the major question we asked above.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How could the Machatzitz Hashekel permit&nbsp;carrying in the back part of the Mavui Tosfos clearly says if one can not carry opposite the long wall than its considered outside the mavui and the korah is considered placed outside the mavui therefore the Korah should not be able to allow one to carry inside any part of the mavui?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d7:&nbsp; 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