{"id":29173,"date":"2023-02-07T17:25:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-07T17:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29173"},"modified":"2023-02-07T22:26:15","modified_gmt":"2023-02-07T22:26:15","slug":"gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-shevat-16-daf-7a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/gemara-eruvin-first-perek-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-shevat-16-daf-7a\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara\u00a0Eruvin: First Perek, \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Shevat 16, Daf 7a (02\/07\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemaraeruvinfirstperek02072023.mp3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to Download<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Conclusion of the Sugya: Following Chumras of Two Different&nbsp;Opinions<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clarify the two different opinions when a we follow the rule \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 and when we say following the chumrahs of two different&nbsp;opinions is considered foolish.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1.&nbsp; \u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d3. &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40909&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=40\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40909&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=40<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2. \u05d7\u05d6\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9 \u05e2\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14331&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=431\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14331&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=431<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db\u05d6&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&amp;daf=27&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&amp;daf=27&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>which&nbsp;brings a machlokes between when the day is considered over in regards to until what time a person can daven mincha and what time a person could&nbsp;start&nbsp;davening maariv.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rabanan &#8211; Day ends at shkia (sunset)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rebbe Yehuda &#8211; Day ends at Plag Hamincha (two and half halachic hours before&nbsp;shkia)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Gemara concludes one could follow whichever opinion they decide.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Could a person daven Mincha after Plag hamincha and then daven Maariv immediately&nbsp;following&nbsp;(before Shkia)?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Would it be permitted if it was two different days?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d3 \u05e1\u05d5\u05e3&nbsp;\u05e1&#8217; \u05d2&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=168\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=168<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db\u05d6 who have a machlokes regarding this matter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e7\u05d4\u05d9\u05dc\u05ea \u05d9\u05e2\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1&#8217; \u05d0 who explains this machlokes is dependent on our sugya.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When is a person considered a Rasha for following the leniencies of two different opinions? (two reasons of the Gemara)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Conclusion of the Sugya: Following a \u05d1\u05ea \u05e7\u05d5\u05dc<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clarify the two reasons&nbsp; &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d5: &#8220;\u05db\u05d0\u05df&nbsp;gives as to why the Chachamim&nbsp;were allowed to ignore the \u05d1\u05ea \u05e7\u05d5\u05dc in the episode related in \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d1\u05d1\u05d0 \u05de\u05e6\u05d9\u05e2\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d8 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s the nafka minah between these two reasons?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why did the Bas Kol say to follow Rebbe Eliezer if that was not the Halacha?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e8\u05d1 \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05df \u05d2\u05d0\u05d5\u05df on the side of the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d8 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&amp;daf=19&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&amp;daf=19&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the second explanation of Tosfos, we do not rule like a Bas Kol. Why do we follow the Bas Kol that said the halacha is like Beis Hillel?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Based on the conclusion of Tosfos, how many opinions are there in regards to following a Bas Kol? (list the opinions)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6. &#8220;\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 (two dots) until&nbsp;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9 (second to last line of the amud)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d1\u05e7\u05e2\u05d4<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Conclusion of the Sugya: Following Chumras of Two Different&nbsp;Opinions Clarify the two different opinions when a we follow the rule \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 and when we say following the chumrahs of&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[15,2,17,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29173","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-eruvin","category-gemara","category-morning-chabura","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29173","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29173"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29173\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29174,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29173\/revisions\/29174"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29173"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29173"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29173"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}