{"id":29154,"date":"2023-02-01T22:34:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-01T22:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29154"},"modified":"2023-02-02T03:38:47","modified_gmt":"2023-02-02T03:38:47","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-wednesday-night-shiur-shevat-11-daf-39a-02-01-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-wednesday-night-shiur-shevat-11-daf-39a-02-01-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Wednesday night shiur, Shevat 11, Daf 39a (02\/01\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek02012023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Conclusion of Topic: Making a bracha \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quickly review &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d8. &#8220;\u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Note<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Summarize the three options that Tosfos presents as to how to make the Bracha on the Daled Minim \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why does&#8221;nt Tosfos give the option of making the bracha prior to picking up the&nbsp;Daled Minim by grasping the Daled Minim with one&#8217;s hands while they are still on the table?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See first few lines of \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1. &#8220;\u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d4 \u05e0\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7 \u05d1\u05d9\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and first few lines of \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=514\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=514<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d5&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=283\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=283<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4 who makes a \u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d1\u05dc\u05e9\u05d5\u05df \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd that he disagrees with Tosfos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=584\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=584<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6: &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d4\u05ea\u05dd \u05d3\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d3\u05d0\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d4 who has an entirely different opinion than Tosfos and the Rambam<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=38616&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=38616&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Halachic Conclusion<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the halachic conclusion as to when is the proper time to recite the bracha on the Daled Minim \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4 which presents two options.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=395\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=395<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See the \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d1 for a new option not mentioned in Tosfos&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d1&#8217; \u05d4\u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 who says the two options mentioned in the Shulchan Aruch are not necessary.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the basis of the Gra?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 &#8220;\u05de\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05e9\u05d4 \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 (ten lines from the top of the Amud) until \u05d5\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=7b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=7b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why does the Shulchan Aruch omit the option of negative intent (the third option that Tosfos presented)?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 and \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=251\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=251<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If person forgot to make a bracha on a mitzvah can he make the bracha afterwards?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d0 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d4-\u05d6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58957&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=302\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58957&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=302<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05d4\u05d2\u05d4\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; 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