{"id":29134,"date":"2023-01-30T22:07:00","date_gmt":"2023-01-30T22:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29134"},"modified":"2023-01-31T03:09:51","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T03:09:51","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-monday-night-shiur-shevat-9-daf-38b-39a-01-30-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-monday-night-shiur-shevat-9-daf-38b-39a-01-30-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Monday night shiur, Shevat 9, Daf 38b-39a (01\/30\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek01182023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d7: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0 (three lines from the bottom of the Amud) until first set of two dots on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e0\u05d5 \u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d0<br><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>How is this halacha consistent with the conclusion of our Gemara?<br>See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 for an answer<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Continue learning the Gemara until the Mishna<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Topic: Making a bracha \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>Why should one make a bracha specifically before performing the mitzvah?<br>See \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=38616&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea &#8220;\u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8<br><strong>Note:<br><\/strong>How Tosfos describes what is \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df for the mitzvah of Daled Minim.<br>The three options that Tosfos presents as to what is \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df for the mitzvah of Daled Minim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>What&#8217;s the minimum action necessary to fulfill the Mitzvah of Daled Minim?<br>See first few lines of \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1. &#8220;\u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d4 \u05e0\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7 \u05d1\u05d9\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See first few lines of \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d1<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=514\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=514<br><\/a>See \u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05e9\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1\u05d5\u05e3 \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0\u05d2<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=348\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=348<br><\/a>The \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d6 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d5<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=283\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=283<br><\/a>And \u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4 \u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05e7 \u05d1\u05dc\u05e9\u05d5\u05df \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05dd<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=584\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=584<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Note:<br><\/strong>How Tosfos relates to the \u05e0\u05e2\u05e0\u05d5\u05e2\u05d9\u05dd of the Daled Minim.<br>See \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6: &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d4\u05ea\u05dd \u05d3\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d3\u05d0\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=38616&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=38616&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=12<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4 and \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=251\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=251<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>If person forgot to make a bracha on a mitzvah can he make the bracha afterwards?<br>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d0 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d4-\u05d6<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58957&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=302\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58957&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=302<br><\/a>And \u05d4\u05d2\u05d4\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d9\u05d3<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=145\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=145<br><\/a>And \u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e2\u05d4 \u05d9\u05d8,\u05d0 with the \u05e9\u05da<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=57\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=57<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Halachik Conclusion:<br><\/strong>What is the halachik conclusion as to when is the proper time to recite the bracha on the Daled Minim \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05df?<br>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05e0&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4 which presents two options.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=395\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=395<br><\/a>See the \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d1 for a new option not mentioned in Tosfos<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396<br><\/a>See \u05d1&#8217; \u05d4\u05d2\u05e8&#8221;\u05d0 who says the two options mentioned in the Shulchan Aruch are not necessary.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=396<br><\/a><strong>Questions:<br><\/strong>What is the basis of the Gra?<br>See \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d6 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 &#8220;\u05de\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05e9\u05d4 \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1 (ten lines from the top of the Amud) until \u05d5\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05ea\u05d0<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=7b&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=7b&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why does the Shulchan Aruch omit the option of negative intent (the third option that Tosfos presented)?<br>See the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 and \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=251\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=251<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Very quickly review \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d7: &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0 (three lines from the bottom of the Amud) until first set of two dots on \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d8 Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; 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