{"id":29077,"date":"2023-01-16T22:01:00","date_gmt":"2023-01-16T22:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=29077"},"modified":"2023-01-17T03:02:09","modified_gmt":"2023-01-17T03:02:09","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-monday-night-shiur-teves-24-daf-38b-01-16-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-monday-night-shiur-teves-24-daf-38b-01-16-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah &#8211; Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Monday night shiur, Teves 24, Daf 38b (01\/16\/23)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek01162023.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sugya &#8211; \u05e9\u05d5\u05de\u05e2 \u05db\u05e2\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Which brachos are excluded from utilizing the rule of \u05e9\u05d5\u05de\u05e2 \u05db\u05e2\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4?<br>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=33&amp;hilite=\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=33&amp;hilite=<br><\/a>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d1 &amp; \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 &#8220;\u05dc\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc\u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=50&amp;hilite=\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=50&amp;hilite=<br><\/a>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05d9&#8221;\u05d2 and \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=256&amp;hilite=\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=256&amp;hilite=<br><\/a>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05e1&#8221;\u05d6 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d9&#8221;\u05d8 &amp; \u05db and \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05e6\u05d1 which differentiates between birchas hamitzvos and birchas hanehenin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does one need to respond \u05d0\u05de\u05df to a bracha in order to be \u05d9\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 with the bracha?<br>See \u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05d9&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d3 &#8220;\u05d5\u05dc\u05e4&#8221;\u05d6 \u05d0\u05dd \u05d1\u05d9\u05e8\u05da<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14265&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=375\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14265&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=375<br><\/a>and \u05d4\u05d2\u05d4\u05d5\u05ea \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05e2\u05e7\u05d9\u05d1\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d9\u05d2\u05e8 \u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05e2 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d3 &amp; \u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14326&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=332\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14326&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=332<br><\/a>and \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05d0\u05d1\u05e0\u05d9 \u05e0\u05d6\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05de<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=1344&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=66&amp;hilite=\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=1344&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=66&amp;hilite=<br><\/a>(See \u05e7\u05d4\u05d9\u05dc\u05ea \u05d9\u05e2\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1&#8217; \u05db&#8221;\u05d5)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>Can one who already fulfilled a mitzvah be motzi another person with that mitzvah through \u05e9\u05d5\u05de\u05e2 \u05db\u05e2\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4?<br>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e2&#8221;\u05d2 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d3<br>Focus on the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05db which brings the Pri Chodesh and the Artzos Hachaim who argues on the ruling of the Shulchan Aruch in regards if the listener knows how to recite the bracha himself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4 and \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d3 and \u05e9\u05e2\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05db\u05d0 which brings the same dispute as above.<br>See \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d9\u05d2 which states at times it better for one person to recite the bracha for everyone<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=33&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=33&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 &#8220;\u05d4\u05dc\u05dc&#8221; \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05db\u05d1 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d1 who brings Rabbeinu Yerucham who brings a proof from gemara that one must respond \u05d4\u05dc\u05dc\u05d5\u05d9\u05d4 in order to be yotzei the reading of Hallel as a proof to the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch. Note the answer the Biur Halacha brings from the Pri Chodosh to explain our Gemara.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=184\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=184<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can a person being called to the Torah rely on \u05e9\u05d5\u05de\u05e2 \u05db\u05e2\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4 of the reading Baal koresh?<br>See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d1 &amp; \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 &#8220;\u05dc\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc\u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=50&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=50&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sugya &#8211; \u05e9\u05d5\u05de\u05e2 \u05db\u05e2\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4 Which brachos are excluded from utilizing the rule of \u05e9\u05d5\u05de\u05e2 \u05db\u05e2\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4?See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d4https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=33&amp;hilite=See \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d1 &amp; \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29077","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29077","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29077"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29077\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29081,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29077\/revisions\/29081"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29077"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29077"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29077"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}