{"id":28907,"date":"2022-12-12T23:10:00","date_gmt":"2022-12-12T23:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28907"},"modified":"2022-12-13T04:20:49","modified_gmt":"2022-12-13T04:20:49","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-monday-night-shiur-kislev-19-daf-38a-12-12-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-monday-night-shiur-kislev-19-daf-38a-12-12-22\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah &#8211; Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Monday night shiur, Kislev 19, Daf 38a (12\/12\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek12122022.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn second \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d7 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0 and the Gemara until \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d0 (last line)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05de\u05d9<br><strong>Questions:<br><\/strong>Is the concept of \u05e9\u05d0\u05e3 \u05d4\u05df \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e0\u05e1 a reason to obligate \u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 or only \u05de\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df?<br>Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e7\u05d7. &#8220;&#8221;\u05d5\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05e9\u05e2 \u05d1\u05df \u05dc\u05d5\u05d9 \u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd (last line until top line of \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e7\u05d7 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1)<br>Learn \u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e7\u05d7: &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05e3 \u05d4\u05df \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e0\u05e1 and \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05e3&#8221; &amp; &#8220;\u05d4\u05d9\u05d5<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=108&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=4&amp;daf=108&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05de\u05d2\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d3. &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05e3<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=11&amp;daf=4&amp;format=pdf\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=11&amp;daf=4&amp;format=pdf<br><\/a>Note: The two different explanations of \u05e9\u05d0\u05e3 \u05d4\u05df \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e0\u05e1<br><strong>Questions:<br><\/strong>What is the connection between the beginning and the end of Tosfos?<br>According to the second answer of Tosfos the reasoning of \u05e9\u05d0\u05e3 \u05d4\u05df \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e0\u05e1 will obligate even for a mitzvah \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0. 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