{"id":28788,"date":"2022-11-16T22:19:00","date_gmt":"2022-11-16T22:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28788"},"modified":"2022-11-17T03:22:45","modified_gmt":"2022-11-17T03:22:45","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-wednesday-night-shiur-cheshvan-23-daf-37b-38a-11-16-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-wednesday-night-shiur-cheshvan-23-daf-37b-38a-11-16-22\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah &#8211; Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Wednesday night shiur, Cheshvan 23, Daf 37b-38a (11\/16\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek11162022.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d6 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 from after the Mishna until the Mishna \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions:<br><\/strong>What is the proper practice of shaking the Lulav when the Chazzan says \u05d9\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e0\u05d0 \u05d4&#8217; &amp; the public replies \u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d4&#8217; \u05db\u05d9 \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1?<br>Should the public shake the Lulav at each of the responses of \u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d4&#8217; \u05db\u05d9 \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1?<br>Should the Chazzan shake the Lulav when he says \u05d9\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e0\u05d0?<br>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea &#8220;\u05d1\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 starting from &#8220;\u05d5\u05e2\u05db\u05e9\u05d9\u05d5 (seven lines before the medium lines) until &#8220;\u05d5\u05d1\u05e9\u05e2\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4<br>Learn \u05e8&#8221;\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d7: \u05d3\u05e4\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05e3 &#8220;\u05d1\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 (fourth line) until \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 who gives a different opinion than Tosfos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>The practice in most shuls is that the Chazzan only shakes the Lulav during \u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d4&#8217; and the first line of \u05d9\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e0\u05d0 and the public shakes the Lulav during each \u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d4&#8217; that is said in response to all the \u05d9\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e0\u05d0 &amp; \u05d9\u05d0\u05de\u05e8\u05d5 \u05e0\u05d0. 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