{"id":28587,"date":"2022-08-22T22:46:00","date_gmt":"2022-08-22T22:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28587"},"modified":"2022-08-25T14:49:17","modified_gmt":"2022-08-25T14:49:17","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-monday-night-shiur-av-26-daf-36a-36b-08-22-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-monday-night-shiur-av-26-daf-36a-36b-08-22-22\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah &#8211; Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Monday night shiur, Av 26, Daf 36a-36b (08\/22\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek08222022.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to\u00a0Download\u00a0the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sugya: \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8<br><\/strong>Quickly review the Gemara &#8220;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5. &#8220;\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 until the top of \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1<br><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>In conclusion of the Gemara why does Rebbe Akiva disqualify an \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8?<br>Why is it kosher according to the Rabanan?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea &#8220;\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8<br>See the last few lines of the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d3: starting from &#8220;\u05e9\u05d9\u05e2\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05e7\u05d8\u05df<br>Learn the &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d0: &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e9 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e2\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05e7\u05d8\u05df until the next \u05ea&#8221;\u05e9.<br>https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&amp;daf=31b&amp;format=pdf<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions:<br><\/strong>In conclusion of the Gemara what is the reason why an Esrog smaller than a minimum size is Pasul?<br>Is the machlokes between the Rabanan and Rebbe Akiva regarding \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 the same as the argument between Rebbe Meir &amp; Rebbe Yehuda for the minimum size Esrog?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d0: &#8220;\u05e9\u05d9\u05e2\u05d5\u05e8<br><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>Tosfos says that the Tannaim disqualify an Esrog smaller than the minimum size is Pasul even if it is fully ripe. How does Tosfos explain why the Gemara considers this Esrog as \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e0\u05d2\u05de\u05e8 \u05e4\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>Rashi said \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 is like a white bean.<br>How does Rashi reconcile the Rabanan who say \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 is kosher with the opinions of \u05e8&#8221;\u05de &amp; \u05e8&#8221;\u05d9 who disqualify an Esrog smaller than a walnut\/egg?<br>Answer #1 &#8211; Learn \u05e7\u05e8\u05d1\u05df \u05e0\u05ea\u05e0\u05d0\u05dc \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05e1<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=480\n\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=480<br><\/a>Answer #2 see \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05d7\u05ea\u05dd \u05e1\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1&#8217; \u05e7\u05e4\u05d0 (first three paragraphs)<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=794&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=140&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=794&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=140&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How do we conclude lhalacha?<br>Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05db\u05d1 with the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=240\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=240<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the halacha regarding an esrog which is larger than an egg at the onset of Sukkos but shrunk during yom tov and is now smaller than the size of an egg?<br>Learn &#8220;\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 &#8220;\u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05dc who quotes the \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9 \u05d0\u05d3\u05dd who says it&#8217;s Pasul as it is lacking in \u05d4\u05d3\u05e8.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>How could the \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9 \u05d0\u05d3\u05dd say it&#8217;s Pasul because of Hadar when the gemara concluded that less than the size of an egg is pasul because it&#8217;s considered \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e0\u05d2\u05de\u05e8 \u05e4\u05d9\u05e8\u05d0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Please write a summary of the Sugya \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sugya: \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8Quickly review the Gemara &#8220;\u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5. &#8220;\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8 until the top of \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d5 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1Question:In conclusion of the Gemara why does Rebbe Akiva disqualify an \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d5\u05e1\u05e8?Why is it kosher according&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,2,5,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28587","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evening-chabura","category-gemara","category-rabbi-baruch-bodenheims-shiurim","category-sukkah"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28587","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28587"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28587\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":28588,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28587\/revisions\/28588"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28587"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28587"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28587"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}