{"id":28490,"date":"2022-07-19T02:15:11","date_gmt":"2022-07-19T02:15:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28490"},"modified":"2022-07-19T02:15:11","modified_gmt":"2022-07-19T02:15:11","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-daf-31b-32a-niktam-rosho-10-04-21-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-daf-31b-32a-niktam-rosho-10-04-21-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah &#8211; Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Monday night shiur, Tamuz 20, Daf 35b\u200e -36a (07\/18\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek07182022.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Review the second half of the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05dc\u05d3 \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1 (starting from \u05e2\u05dc\u05ea\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d6\u05d6\u05d9\u05ea \u05e2\u05dc \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d5)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05dc\u05d4: &#8220;\u05e0\u05e7\u05dc\u05e3 (two dots &#8211; 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