{"id":28462,"date":"2022-07-06T20:33:31","date_gmt":"2022-07-06T20:33:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28462"},"modified":"2022-07-06T20:33:31","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T20:33:31","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-carrying-lulav-on-shabbos-daf-42a-10-05-21-3-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-carrying-lulav-on-shabbos-daf-42a-10-05-21-3-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9 Tamuz 7, Daf 51a (07\/06\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemarasukkahfifthperek07062022.mp3\"><\/audio><figcaption><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0\u05d0. &#8220;\u05d5\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d9\u05e8\u05de\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d0 (one third down the Amud) until &#8220;\u05de\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9 (middle of the Amud) and continue learning the Gemara until &#8220;\u05de\u05d0\u05d9 \u05d8\u05e2\u05de\u05d0&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>According to \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d9\u05e8\u05de\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d0 everyone agrees that the musical instruments were played daily at the Nisuch hayayin of the Korban Tamid even on Shabbos and Yom tov. 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