{"id":28444,"date":"2022-06-28T18:33:02","date_gmt":"2022-06-28T18:33:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28444"},"modified":"2022-06-28T18:37:13","modified_gmt":"2022-06-28T18:37:13","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-carrying-lulav-on-shabbos-daf-42a-10-05-21-3-2-2-2-2-3-2-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-carrying-lulav-on-shabbos-daf-42a-10-05-21-3-2-2-2-2-3-2-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9 Sivan 29, Daf 50b (06\/28\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburashiurgemarasukkahfifthperek06282022.mp3\"><\/audio><figcaption><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0: &#8220;\u05ea&#8221;\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d7\u05dc\u05d9\u05dc \u05d3\u05d5\u05d7\u05d4 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea (end of seventh line of the Amud) until &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 \u05de\u05e0\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d0&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>How often would they play the \u05d7\u05dc\u05d9\u05dc in the Beis Hamikdash; Everyday or only twelve specific days?<br>Learn \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05e2\u05e8\u05db\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=33&amp;daf=10&amp;format=pdf\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/shas.aspx?mesechta=33&amp;daf=10&amp;format=pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0: &#8220;\u05d1\u05e9\u05d9\u05e8 \u05e9\u05dc \u05e7\u05e8\u05d1\u05df<br><strong>Question:<br><\/strong>Why does Rashi establish the machlokes whether \u05d7\u05dc\u05d9\u05dc \u05d3\u05d5\u05d7\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea only on the 12 special days and not for every Shabbos when the Korban Tamid is brought?<br>Learn \u05de\u05d4\u05e8&#8221;\u05dd for an answer<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=508\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=508<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u05f4\u05dd \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d2 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d3<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=27\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=27<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How does the Rambam differ with Rashi?<br>Learn &#8220;\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 \u05e1\u05d5\u05db\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0: &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 &#8220;\u05d1\u05e9\u05d9\u05e8 \u05e9\u05dc \u05e7\u05e8\u05d1\u05df<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=198\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=198<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0. &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5<br>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0: &#8220;\u05d5\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Questions:<br><\/strong>Is the second question of Tosfos exclusively a question on the rabanan who hold \u05e2\u05d9\u05e7\u05e8 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e4\u05d4 or even on \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 who holds \u05e2\u05d9\u05e7\u05e8 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d1\u05db\u05dc\u05d9?<br>See \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d0<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=508\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=508<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tosfos \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e0. &#8220;\u05e9\u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 asked &#8211; We have a rule \u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05ea \u05d1\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 and playing musical instruments are only prohibited from a gezira drabanan so why did the rabanan not allow the playing of the instruments for the \u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05ea \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05d5\u05d0\u05d1\u05d4 on Shabbos or Yom Tov? 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