{"id":28441,"date":"2022-06-28T02:04:05","date_gmt":"2022-06-28T02:04:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=28441"},"modified":"2022-06-28T02:04:05","modified_gmt":"2022-06-28T02:04:05","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-daf-31b-32a-niktam-rosho-10-04-21-2-2-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-sukkah-lulav-hagazul-evening-chabura-daf-31b-32a-niktam-rosho-10-04-21-2-2-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah &#8211; Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Monday night shiur Sivan 29, Daf 35b (06\/27\/22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimeveningchaburagemarasukkahthirdperek06272022.MP3\"><\/audio><figcaption><strong>Click on Right Side of Player to&nbsp;Download&nbsp;the Shiur<\/strong><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Topic: \u05d7\u05d6\u05d6\u05d9\u05ea<br><\/strong>Very quickly review the Gemara from &#8220;\u05e2\u05dc\u05ea\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d6\u05d6\u05d9\u05ea&#8221; until \u05e0\u05d5\u05d8\u05dc\u05d4 \u05e4\u05d8\u05de\u05ea\u05d5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the pasul of \u05d7\u05d6\u05d6\u05d9\u05ea only on the first day or all the days of Sukkos?<br>Review &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05ea &#8220;\u05e2\u05dc\u05ea\u05d4<br>Learn \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 \u05e1&#8217; \u05d8\u05d5 &#8220;\u05de\u05ea\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea\u05df who explains why the \u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d9 holds a \u05d7\u05d6\u05d6\u05d9\u05ea will only disqualify an Esrog on the first day of Sukkos.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=479\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=479<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Will multiple \u05d7\u05d6\u05d6\u05d9\u05ea disqualify an Esrog because it is \u05de\u05e0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 \/ spotted if they are the same color of the Esrog?<br>Learn \u05e8&#8221;\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d9\u05d6: \u05d3\u05e4\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05e3 &#8220;\u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05d1\u05e9\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd (in middle of the wide lines) who quotes the opinion of the \u05e8\u05d0\u05d1&#8221;\u05d3<br><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=617\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=617<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question:<br><\/strong>Why should the color make a difference? 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