{"id":2290,"date":"2014-03-26T22:07:20","date_gmt":"2014-03-27T02:07:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onlineshiurim\/?p=2290"},"modified":"2014-03-26T22:07:20","modified_gmt":"2014-03-27T02:07:20","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-makkos-16a-sugya-of-kum-lai-bidiraba-mineai-03262014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-makkos-16a-sugya-of-kum-lai-bidiraba-mineai-03262014\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A: Sugya of Kum Lai BiDiraba Mineai (03\/26\/2014)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align:center;\">[jwplayer mediaid=&#8221;2291&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ptiweb.org\/rbklbm.MP3\"><strong>Download Here<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Learn the .\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d8\u05d6\u00a0 from &#8220;\u05d0\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d9 \u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05e8\u05d3\u05e2\u05d0\u00a0&#8221; (middle of the wide lines) until the top of\u00a0 &#8220;\u05d8\u05d6: \u00a0&#8221; \u05d5\u05d4\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d9\u05db\u05d0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>\u00a0on previous \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In order to apply the \u05d3\u05d9\u05df of \u05e7\u05dd \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05d4 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 both violations have to be violated at the same time :\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05d8\u05d5 says the violation of the \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 is immediately and the nullification of the \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 is akin to nullification of a \u05ea\u05e0\u05d0\u05d9. 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