{"id":2251,"date":"2014-03-17T22:31:12","date_gmt":"2014-03-18T02:31:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onlineshiurim\/?p=2251"},"modified":"2014-03-17T22:31:12","modified_gmt":"2014-03-18T02:31:12","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-makkos-16a-vitarvaihu-03172014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-makkos-16a-vitarvaihu-03172014\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A: ViTarvaihu… (03\/17\/2014)"},"content":{"rendered":"

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  • How does the fact that \u05e8’ \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df holds like the \u05ea\u05e0\u05d0 that \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 \u05e9\u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05d1\u05d5 \u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9\u05df help to explain why he does not learn out from the \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 of \u05e0\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8 to say \u05dc\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9\u05df? Learn \u05de\u05d4\u05e8”\u05dd<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n
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    • Why is a \u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0\u05ea \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 not a good \u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0\u05d4? Learn \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 “\u05d0\u05dc\u05de\u05d0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n
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      Questions<\/strong>\u00a0that we still have not resolved on the previous \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 :<\/div>\n
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      • Rashi when answering a question on \u05e8’ \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df compares the \u05d1\u05d9\u05d8\u05dc \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 to a \u05ea\u05e0\u05d0\u05d9 and the \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 to being \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8. This is a major contradiction to what \u05e8\u05e9”\u05d9 said earlier that the \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 is not concluded until the \u05d1\u05d9\u05d8\u05d5\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 ?<\/li>\n
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