{"id":2228,"date":"2014-03-12T22:03:54","date_gmt":"2014-03-13T02:03:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onlineshiurim\/?p=2228"},"modified":"2014-03-12T22:03:54","modified_gmt":"2014-03-13T02:03:54","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-makkos-15b-anaylsis-of-machlokes-reb-yochanan-and-reish-lakish-03122014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-makkos-15b-anaylsis-of-machlokes-reb-yochanan-and-reish-lakish-03122014\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 15B: Anaylsis of Machlokes Reb Yochanan and Reish Lakish (03\/12\/2014)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align:center;\">[jwplayer mediaid=&#8221;2229&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ptiweb.org\/rbm15braishlakish.MP3\"><strong>Download Here<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Major Questions<\/strong>:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li>Rashi when answering a question on \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df compares the \u05d1\u05d9\u05d8\u05dc \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 to a \u05ea\u05e0\u05d0\u05d9 and the \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 to being \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8. This is a major contradiction to what \u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 said earlier that the \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 is not concluded until the \u05d1\u05d9\u05d8\u05d5\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 ?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>The \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05ea \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd explained \u05e9\u05d9\u05d8\u05ea \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1 regarding a \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea\u05e7 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 in the opinion\u00a0of \u05e8&#8221;\u05dc \u00a0of \u05e7\u05d9\u05d9\u05de\u05d5 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05e7\u05d9\u05d9\u05de\u05d5\u00a0\u00a0that the \u05e2\u05d1\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 is not concluded with the violation of the\u00a0\u05dc\u05d0\u05d5, rather it is only concluded upon the declining of Beis Din&#8217;s ultimatum.\u00a0If this is true then what is\u00a0the proof that \u05e8&#8221;\u05dc who holds a \u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0\u05ea \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 is\u00a0<strong><em>not<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0considered a valid\u00a0\u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0\u05d4 holds \u05e7\u05d9\u05d9\u05de\u05d5 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05e7\u05d9\u05d9\u05de\u05d5.\u00a0 All cases of \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea\u05e7 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 will be \u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d0\u05ea \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7\u00a0since the \u05e2\u05d1\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4 is not concluded with the violation of the\u00a0\u05dc\u05d0\u05d5?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>Learn &#8220;\u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d1\u05de\u05d0\u05d9 (use the \u05d2\u05d9\u05e8\u05e1\u05d0 of the \u05d1&#8221;\u05d7 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0&#8217; &amp; \u05de\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9&#8221;\u05e1 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4)<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Point to ponder<\/strong>:<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div>In the case of\u00a0 \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc \u05db\u05db\u05e8 \u05d6\u05d5 \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5\u05dd and he does not eat the bread when did he violate the \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e2\u05d4?<\/div>\n<div>A) every second he did not eat. or<\/div>\n<div>B) at the end of the the day.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[jwplayer mediaid=&#8221;2229&#8243;] Download Here Major Questions: Rashi when answering a question on \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df compares the \u05d1\u05d9\u05d8\u05dc \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 to a \u05ea\u05e0\u05d0\u05d9 and the \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 to being \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8. 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